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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

She at least knocked out that hostage taker before. Plus she defeated a half-dozen ninjas in the movie. Hana'll fight pretty much anyone who gets in her face.

Well other than certain actual dangers like the Imagins of the week. Also don't lump the actual human adversaries like hostage taker or ninjas with people just acting as a (convincing) performer in a show!

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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 30 - “MADAM, HOW ABOUT THE FIREWORKS”

The Deneb/Yuuto thread is terrific, with Deneb trying to start a new life away from Yuuto. Deneb feels like he’s a burden to Yuuto, and he opts to run away from home.

Feels more like Deneb trying to help Yuuto again, but this time he has to act on his own, regardless of Yuuto's plead. It gives me thoughts about Deneb's sense of right and wrong doesn't have much to do with the law, reminds of Yusuke (Godai, not Sieg's baby).... who stole a police bike at one point. Deneb going to Ryotaro is his way to help Yuuto, and it not going super great... probably Ryotaro's bad luck affected him too?! Momo is just generally hostile to others regardless of drama or feelings, though I don't know what's Momo's deal to act that way to Deneb, likely bugging Ryotaro? Because at first Momo wants usual Imagin contract with Ryotaro, then he warms up to Ryotaro and cares about him, at least more openly compared to like, other Taros, but now against Deneb...

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The Airi/Ryotaro story is a little mirror to the Deneb/Yuuto one, the example of how fleeting ill will can be when you really care about someone. I love that the only real speech about Feelings in this one is when Ryotaro explains what siblings are like to Deneb. Yuuto gives a huffy little I’m Not Mad Now Come Home And Shut Up tantrum to fix things with Deneb, and Airi and Ryotaro don’t even say anything about their fight being over. It’s just, like, the sun went down. There are fireworks. Let’s all just hang out and relax.

Ryotaro makes a point about sibling or loved one fights that the heat aren't really malicious yeah, but I believe Ryotaro should know enough to differentiate between sibling slapsticks and actual strife between someone, especially for someone who had been bullied (people can make light of bullying as sibling slapsticks or such). But Ryotaro explains what siblings are while him with Airi are completely, I still believe the closest ones are the ones who are in harmony like them (as you previously said, these 2 are sweet toku hero and his saintly sister). But I guess the more appropriate comparison was the Taros Imagins who do bicker and fight, as 3 of them are morally ambiguous, where of course Kintaros will also be caught in although he's mostly respond by sleeping.

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The Fireworks Family story is the linking element, and it gives us fireworks, but I sort of hate it? It’s trying to do the same thing as the Deneb and Ryotaro threads, where Some Emotions Are So Big You Don’t Need Words, but this dude abandoned his family for five years because he wanted to make fireworks. That is a way bigger thing than inconveniencing a friend or fighting over culinary chemical warfare! I don’t know how or why this guy’s wife is supposed to forgive him, let alone support him? Beyond a poorly articulated sense that he wants his family back, he doesn’t really seem to regret his actions or take responsibility for what happened. He’s just like When I’m Great At Fireworks She’ll Come Back, and the show’s like Yup? It’s a weirdly dark monster plot featuring a horrifyingly bad husband and father, who gets what he wants in the end? Weird! Did not like this story or how it ended.

This is a real conflict and dispute between family, it's about how, apparently at 5 years ago, the couple didn't match as the husband and wife have different approach, and the husband instead left the family for his own dreams, or rather, to proof that his dreams aren't just meaningless enthusiast. I think in that guy's wife side, she should accept the difference and flaws that your significant other have, albeit of course the significant others should also want to improve themselves. The wife shouldn't look down or underestimate something that she sees as trivial. I guess the ending just wants to show that the husband's interest isn't a laughing matter, and that the wife accepts him more after this proof. But I guess the issue here is how violent and overboard the husband reacts to the family complaint? Compared to above, probably this should show that not all bickerings or dispute are sibling slapstick like between Yuuto and Deneb? Or support about families acting like this (and make light of that as something like sibling tantrum throwing) like how Naomi can potentially do.

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THE BAGGAGE CAR

-An astonishing amount of great gags in this one, but my two favorite ones were the crime scene set dressing of Milk Dipper (the chalk outline around the teddy bear!) and the mother scolding her child for staring at Deneb. I love the conceit that Deneb In A Summer Hat just reads as some unfortunately deformed individual, and society shouldn’t make him feel bad.

Multiple times said, Den-O is a series about gags. Mother scolding at child for staring at Deneb? Seems like they don't know about good monsters in KR series. Well, superhero shows can inflict bad influence instead on certain kids who only like them for the cool violence and fights instead of the helpful acts.

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does she come back as an anime character

Man, that's a bummer. I honestly don't know if this is going to sink the next 20 episodes for me or what. Hiyori being gone from Kabuto was such a distracting development, and... ugh. Ugh!

Total bummer.

Anime cameo of her in Hayate the Combat Butler ep. 16, along with other Den-O stuff.


Also from where I've arrived in Riders discussions other than this forum, I was wondering if people were apathetic of Hiyori being Gon from Kabuto, or more relieved to have her being replaced by an action-based girl in Renge.

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Yeah, I'll try to be fair to it as a story. It's not like Hana's arc was what I was loving the most about Den-O. (It was usually sort of boring and nonsensical?) That performer, though. She was such a charismatic presence on the DenLiner, and I'm definitely going to miss her.

Well she maybe is a charismatic presence, but I hope this won't be a message where you have to be like the Imagin part (even if they deserve it) nagging and aggressive to be like that (Some people equate being assertive as being aggressive).