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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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04-04-2021, 03:07 PM
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Kamen Rider Die
a) I think Den-Parado is funnier.
b) I didn't know Parado's actor's name.
c) see "a)".
Well I like jokes that are related to the actual phenomenon (dunno how to put in the words as a non-native English), including puns, like "Hanakuso Onna" containing "Hana", making it seems that Hana is the short version of that phrase (ergo "Hana" name is a shortened insult by itself). "Parado reminds of
Kai
and... he's portrayed by Shouma
Kai
". And for actor names, Parado's one especially stuck on me as Parado and Graphite are brothers in arms, and both of their actor's names are the same, Shouma; with surname Kai for Parado, Machii for Graphite. I̶n̶b̶4̶ ̶l̶a̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶D̶e̶n̶-̶O̶ ̶v̶i̶l̶l̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶n̶a̶m̶e̶d̶ ̶"̶M̶a̶c̶h̶i̶i̶"̶,̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶f̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶G̶r̶a̶p̶h̶i̶t̶e̶.̶ I feel guilty to bring out my preference though by this reply (is this on purpose?).
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 38 - “THE KING TRAIN WITHIN THE TRAIN TERMINAL”
That’s it. That’s this story’s lesson. Ryuta wants Airi to see him as a real brother, but she doesn’t. Yuuto wants to be remembered, but he won't be. The end.
Other than that, sometimes wanting is better than having. One's desire and anticipation for something is often better than the actual result. After all, desires and expectations are infinitely boundless, whereas the reality is limited by various flaws and limitations — which were overlooked during the daydreaming in expectation. This is a reminder that a part of life is the struggle, and that's what keeps you going. If you had everything you wanted, you would have nothing to shoot for. And besides - getting what you want isn't always that good for you. But what's important for Ryuta now is to get himself free from S̶h̶o̶u̶m̶a̶ Kai's clutches, the leader of the Imagins.
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Having Yuuto be the one to make that clear to Ryuta, not by a big speech, but just by his presence. Ryuta sees Yuuto as the one who is winning with Airi, and Yuuto is the one who’s lost the most. But he doesn’t let that destroy him. He accepts it, and moves on. If Yuuto can do that, maybe it’s time for Ryuta to do the same.
I mean, the first thing Ryutaros does after accepting that Airi isn’t his sister is that he apologizes for everything he did over these two episodes, so, like,
maybe it’s going to be okay!
It’s hard, but so is growing up. With this story, the show is getting at a concept that its younger viewers can most relate to, which is a neat thing for these shows to do occasionally. Growing up means accepting that the world doesn’t just exist to make us happy, and that sometimes we’re going to have to deal with not getting everything we want. It sucks! It’s not fun. But it’s part of growing up, and we all have to do it.
Ryuta is a childish Imagin, and the selfishness and spoiled part of him comes from that. He needs a parent figure to discipline him and develop him/making him grow up mentally! But Ryuta is someone superpowered unlike an actual child... they have to be tough mfker too to endure the monstrous Imagin power. Ryuta is likely directed to the younger viewers who possess similarly, but without the superpower to fuck up things as severely as Ryuta did, to teach, but doesn't mean this will be successful in doing so though, like youngsters can just admire the heroes from their fighting and flashy action instead of the values, which would just do harm.
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Kamen Rider Die
I mean, unless you’re Den-Parado, who is living his best villain life. I cannot
for the life of me
imagine how someone could dislike this performance. He is not afraid of these do-gooders at all! Even a little! They’re amusing when they’re frustrated, and boring when they’ve got some spine. His first face-to-face showdown is him shrugging at some questions and laughing at others. He isn’t here to monologue or exposit. He’s here to finish his task and enjoy himself, in that order. Getting rid of the Riders is a step in that direction, but it’s not like he’s trying to torture them or anything. To put it in train terms, they’re all just on parallel tracks. He doesn’t care about what they’re doing.
I kinda loved that swing between Den-Parado’s blitheness and Ryuta’s grudging acceptance. It’s this throughline of a feeling of equanimity, where all we can do is accept things and move on. It’s another Den-O story where no one really wins, despite two rescued Liners and a detonated monster. Ryuta’s humbled, Den-Parado is barely inconvenienced, and the train just keeps rolling along. Sometimes the victory is small, personal. Being that slight bit more able to handle our emotions, or get by with what we’ve got. Walking away from disappointment. That’s nothing heroic, maybe, but it’s part of getting better as people.
I see your point here about his performance here (I know nothing about Kai before watching), so I'd try to ask a part of Rider audiences about the polar opposite of Kai's view between you and them (but I hope you won't act obnoxious to ignore that people holds that view to S̶h̶o̶u̶m̶a̶ Kai, well not here at least that you don't understand but know that audience are against him), borrowing your explanation here. But basing from what you've said before in move, regarding Gaoh, one of the complaints audience have is like what you summed up regarding Gaoh's motivation, which S̶h̶o̶u̶m̶a̶ Kai feels similar to. But fearless villains, well, that's common in any part of the audience, one of the villains' main trait is arrogance, so they will never be afraid of the do-gooders because they feel they're above them. But like I said before, S̶h̶o̶u̶m̶a̶ Kai to me feels like Naomi if pushed into actual villainy, like you said there where they're amusing when they're frustrated, which was Naomi's reaction to the infighting between the Imagins. I feel like S̶h̶o̶u̶m̶a̶ Kai is torturing Ryuta though, and as the leader of the Imagins, it'd of course feel inconvenient that one of his kind betrayed him.
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THE BAGGAGE CAR
-Okay,
how the hell do Yuuto and Ryutaros end up back in the present?!
They were both at the train platform in the future, they’re fighting Den-Parado and the Lion Imagin (and Dance Dance Ryutalution) on a roof, and then Ryutaros is running to Milk Dipper. At what point did they leave the future and get back to the present? And how did they manage that without either the DenLiner or the ZeroLiner? I genuinely can’t see how they managed it, so please fill me in on this plot point.
It should be Ryuvolution! Taken from Revolver to Ryuvolver.
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-Having the majority of the train line exposition occur as Owner and Manager have a rice-eating contest (with timer!) was far-and-away the smartest version of that scene. It’s a lot of vague Time Nonsense, where we’re still just like Ooooh Mysterious Train Line, but it all being conducted over thrilling rice-eating maneuvers forgives a lot of its sins.
Owner and Manager are actually arch-enemies. I know that the exposition here is done in the usual Den-O way, with the animestyle comedic wacky style of presentation. I hope this won't mean that, everything (and not only exposition) should be turned into that kind of show like quirky, satire, simple, exaggeration/carricature type of thing, like those who bash an original series over an abridged one. Different parts of KR should all be treated equally as enjoyable if those are good, or
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