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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kiva
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05-07-2021, 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sunred
I assume Zatyme is booing Fish for pulling a dad joke via wordplay of hikikomori into hikikoumori. Hikikomori is a term for recluse shut-ins who refuse to leave their dwellings and koumori(pronounced koh-wu-mo-ri) is Japanese for the animal bat. Fish according to Zatyme has done the sacrilegious act of giving us a pun thus the booing. Most likely. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Got it!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Switchblade
Otoya is a really complicated character. He is, as you'll see in upcoming days, probably the single most fun character on the show. He can be really campy and goofy in ways that are really enjoyable. Everything about his attitude towards Yuri, though, is just... it's really, really bad. He's a creep at best and a stalker at worst. This wasn't great in 1986, it wasn't great in 2008, and it's really bad to look back on in 2021. It's really difficult to reconcile the parts of the character that are fun and admirable with the parts of him that are just a complete sleazebag.
Yeah, he's both indefensible (nearly everything he does in this episode is, at
minimum
, a lengthy Harassment In The Workplace seminar in the offing) and also so ridiculous that it's hard to feel too upset about it, personally. I wouldn't
for a second
push back against anyone who thought he was too problematic to deal with, though. He's the sort of Pepe Le Pew character that is giving kids an absolutely terrible baseline for what's acceptable in relationships. It's corny and inappropriate if you're an adult, reckless and disappointing when it's pitched to children.
For me, though... yeah, I don't know if it's going to hit me super hard. A lot of his physicality in this one is more about lifting her weaponry, and she slaps him hard when he tries to get close to her earlier. (Not a great moment for Inoue!) The rest of it is him being a lecherous creep, but Yuri treats that as despicable, and he's nearly murdered by a decorative vampire monster that he attempted to seduce. Problematic elements, but there is some attempt by the show to have consequences? A little?
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Switchblade
That said, I did enjoy Wataru more this time. It feels a little abrupt for him to be more actively engaging with people, cafe scene aside, but it's much more enjoyable than the mask, gloves, and notepad. Definitely feel the disconnect between Wataru and Kiva, though. It reminds me a lot of Agito and the similar disconnect between Shouichi and Agito. I have some thoughts on why it's happening here, but it probably involves spoilers so I'll save it for later.
I feel like I can see a bit how Wataru/Kiva could work, and how it ties in with Wataru losing the mask and stuff for this episode. (I guess Megumi completely cured his psychosomatic allergies?) Wataru is someone who has trouble interfacing with world. He can't look people in the eye, he can't talk to them... it's tough for him to be present with people. But Kiva is a mask, Kiva is armor, Kiva doesn't have to talk to anyone. Using Kamen Rider Kiva to step outside of how he views himself, the chains he's placed on his identity... I can see that being why there's a different physicality?
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Switchblade
One thing I do want to comment on now, though, is my love for the Fangires. The Fangires are one of my favorite monster groups from this era. I love the stained glass motif for the monster suits and the accompanying partial transformation face paint. The glass effect on their victims is also a really cool twist on Faiz's dust corpses.
That stained glass shit is great. I love that motif for a monster. Stained glass windows are beautiful, but they're also something you only see in places of power. They're regal and imposing and
cold
. Making a monster that's beautiful
and
, like, implacable and distant? Good choice!
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