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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kiva
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06-07-2021, 11:57 AM
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DreadBringer
I mean not only about how Grizzly Fangire escaped originally, but about how Grizzly Fangire escapes from Maya every time, if Maya's threat to those who love humans like him is continuous. I'd imagine Maya would try to hunt him again if possible. I'd also think that other Fangires that Maya killed also lived off the radar... I didn't realize that the ones Maya hunted before in the wedding are Fangires before it's revealed.
Well, a couple things.
First, I imagine something happens to Maya between 1986 - where she is
very
active as Queen - and 2008, where Mio is the current Queen. There is probably a story yet to be told about why there wasn't a Queen tracking down Shinji and Ryoko for the entire 22 years.
Second, the Bishop gave Mio a dossier on Fangires who'd transgressed, so I assume the Fangire culture has some system of ferreting out traitors. I don't think the Queen needs to be constantly hunting them (there's only one of her and a lot of human-loving Fangires), but there's no one to take them out without the Queen.
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DreadBringer
Though I'd appreciate another insight regarding this, albeit I think love for relatives (parent, child, and sibling) is quite omnipresent, and one of the main ways KR series (or many pieces of media) give redeeming qualities to jerks are about those loves.
Sure, but it's foregrounded a lot more in Kiva. It's less a part of the formula and more What The Show Is About. It's addressing and interrogating the concept a lot more regularly.
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DreadBringer
I know Otoya touches upon about the woman he already loved when talking with Maya at one point, but this kinda feels like how Otoya will be turned up into any women that he comes across, though the one with Maya will likely be the last, and shows he's a total playboy as a womanizer. He'd try to please every women as womanizers do that, but still.
Not sure I'm taking your point here, but I don't think Otoya's really shown to be disloyal here. There's a difference between an Otoya who dates women (
so many women
) and an Otoya who's in a relationship. Relationship Otoya is more focused, less obnoxious. His flirting is all to entertain Yuri now.
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Sh Ranger
I actually support both Otoya/Yuri and Otoya/Maya. Otoya loves Yuri, but he loves freedom as well, so it's difficult for him to be content when there are two very interesting girls in his life and I think Inoue does an excellent job at showing why they are both viable options and why Otoya is so conflicted between them.
Yeah, there's a real positive change in the two triangles, where we now have one with two fantastic people fighting over one generally-decent person, which is a better dynamic than Yuri needing to choose between An Abuser and An Unreliable Clown. I much prefer two competent, compelling women trying to navigate their feelings for a funny, passionate champion of justice!
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