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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Kiva
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06-15-2021, 01:13 PM
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It's not that she's happy (I like Yuri being happy with her choices!), it's that she's happy around
Jiro
, and that's a problem. Jiro's the guy who kidnapped her and threatened to breed her just a few weeks prior. For her to be all Forgive And Forget when that guy did nothing to redeem himself after his, frankly, irredeemable transgressions? To see her laughing with the guy who vowed to assault her? That's a massive miscalculation, and it was a decision that it feels like the show didn't think through all the way.
But, yeah, I am totally okay with Yuri celebrating her hard-fought victory with everyone else. It's a very nice moment for her, and I wish it wasn't tainted by Jiro being a part of it.
So you think Jirou needed an arc like Alain where he sees the error of his ways and resolves to become a better person? I guess that might have made the scene work better. However, it's probably okay for that to be water under the bridge after 7 episodes. Even though he didn't do much to redeem himself, he did ultimately accept Yuri's feelings for Otoya and spare their lives, so he does have some heart deep down.
I think one of the morals of this episode is about how holding on to grudges and letting hatred fester can have a toxic effect on a person. Yuri shows an admirable amount of maturity and wisdom by being able to forgive and forget. By doing that, she was able to share her burden with the others and that's probably why Otoya decided she was mentally prepared to finally use IXA.
I don't know if any of this can convince you. Maybe we just have to agree to disagree here?
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I wonder if some of it also isn't that Kiva's way more powerful than Wataru, so molding and shaping Wataru suddenly becomes more appealing than before (or than acting as a mentor to Kengo). Like, I think Nago is in a real Not All Fangires mindset, but some of his turnaround on Kiva might be less that Wataru's a sweet boy, and more that Nago now can direct Kiva to serve Nago's purposes.
Well Nago is a skilled manipulator, so it makes sense that he would want to capitalize on his friendship with Wataru after the revelation, but then, Kiva and IXA were already aligned in their fight against the Fangires, just not with each other until now. So it's mostly that their teamwork is going to be more synchronized from now on, with Nago resuming his role as Wataru's mentor to shape him in to his ideal image of a hero.
Poor Kengo though. Rhino Fangire didn't crush his dream, but it still got crushed anyway. Maybe he should try and focus on his singing talent?
I haven't talked much about the 2008 side of the fight, since I thought Yuri's was more emotional, but I will praise Megumi for destroying Rook using Burst Mode, showing once more how superfluous Rising is.
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