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Kamen Rider Die · 06-19-2021, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunred

Saga suit is simply put a great mix of elegance and archnemesis vibes.

Yeah, it feels like a midway point between Kiva and IXA. It brings over the immaculate white of IXA, but then fills it in with Kiva's gothic vibes. Good suit!

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

But still, I thought Wataru sees the good in others (despite being shy, I mean one of the reasons to be shy is to be afraid of others, and he sunk into that way again when Dai-chan is actually Rook), but it only takes this part to make Wataru distrustful to her? It takes monsters like Rhino Fangire to send Wataru outright into hateful state.

I mean, This Time It's Personal, you know? This isn't a random person who betrayed another random person. This was Wataru getting his heart broken by a girl he liked. A girl who is engaged to his childhood friend! Wataru is dealing with it as well as he probably can in the immediate aftermath. He's not a saint, you know? He's a sweet boy who is trying his best to navigate a horrible situation.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

This part's a message about own potential to create own violin to draw 100% of talent... though I still don't fully capture of own violin being different except likely more passion to show off your creation's capability aside from your abilities. I wonder if this would apply for Riders too, creating own Riders instead of being handed would make a better fighter (the creator of IXA for example should use the IXA itself by that then).

I think it's more that she's using the Bloody Rose as a metaphor for Otoya trying to please other people, fulfill other people's expectations. The Bloody Rose is him manifesting all of himself into the world, rather than working through someone else's vessel. She's basically telling him that he is wasting himself trying to be anything other than Otoya, and that includes being Yuri's boyfriend.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

(where do you get the name of it being Saga? iirc wasn't mentioned in the series)

Some stuff I've just heard through the fandom (all the Kiva Seihous made it relevant recently), and some other people confirmed it in this thread.

06-19-2021, 05:15 PM	#625
Kamen Rider Die Kamen Ride Or Die Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,804	Quote: Originally Posted by Sunred Saga suit is simply put a great mix of elegance and archnemesis vibes. Yeah, it feels like a midway point between Kiva and IXA. It brings over the immaculate white of IXA, but then fills it in with Kiva's gothic vibes. Good suit! Quote: Originally Posted by DreadBringer But still, I thought Wataru sees the good in others (despite being shy, I mean one of the reasons to be shy is to be afraid of others, and he sunk into that way again when Dai-chan is actually Rook), but it only takes this part to make Wataru distrustful to her? It takes monsters like Rhino Fangire to send Wataru outright into hateful state. I mean, This Time It's Personal, you know? This isn't a random person who betrayed another random person. This was Wataru getting his heart broken by a girl he liked. A girl who is engaged to his childhood friend! Wataru is dealing with it as well as he probably can in the immediate aftermath. He's not a saint, you know? He's a sweet boy who is trying his best to navigate a horrible situation. Quote: Originally Posted by DreadBringer This part's a message about own potential to create own violin to draw 100% of talent... though I still don't fully capture of own violin being different except likely more passion to show off your creation's capability aside from your abilities. I wonder if this would apply for Riders too, creating own Riders instead of being handed would make a better fighter (the creator of IXA for example should use the IXA itself by that then). I think it's more that she's using the Bloody Rose as a metaphor for Otoya trying to please other people, fulfill other people's expectations. The Bloody Rose is him manifesting all of himself into the world, rather than working through someone else's vessel. She's basically telling him that he is wasting himself trying to be anything other than Otoya, and that includes being Yuri's boyfriend. Quote: Originally Posted by DreadBringer (where do you get the name of it being Saga? iirc wasn't mentioned in the series) Some stuff I've just heard through the fandom (all the Kiva Seihous made it relevant recently), and some other people confirmed it in this thread. __________________ Currently rewatching: Kamen Rider Fourze \| Other series available on the archive!