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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

What exactly makes you think that k-drama and wuxia fans don't branch out to toku? And why should it bother you if they don't?

Because I started out as a wuxia fan before I transitioned into a toku fan, K-drama fan, Taiwanese drama fan, etc..... If wuxia drama helped me branch out to tokusatsu, then there should've been more wuxia fans (beside me) that crossed over to tokusatsu like I did. The fact that I'm the only toku fan that has vast knowledge of K-dramas, C-dramas/wuxia, and have watched numerous non-English foreign language TV shows on this forum is very disturbing.

Yes, I credit wuxia for helping me become a toku fan. As I said, tokusatsu and wuxia shared similarities with each other. There should been a big major crossover/branching out of toku fans becoming wuxia fan, and I could say the same for wuxia fans should've branch out to tokusatsu too.

So it's easy for a toku fan to become a wuxia fan (and for wuxia fan to become a toku fan) because of the similarities between tokusatsu and wuxia.

As I stated, K-dramas have already dipped into sci-fi/fantasy genre to the point
where they start to resemble tokusatsu like the 2 K-drama on Netflix I mention on my previous posts. Also, it doesn't help that many K-drama fans have already started to branch out to C-dramas (and that include wuxia/martial art genre), and if you think I'm making this up, then go read these Reddit thread:

Evidence#1: C-drama Reddit thread-Its a little annoying when kdrama fans ask for kdramas in cdrama land

Evidence #2: C-drama Reddit thread-For those that are cdrama fans after being kdrama fans, why do you like cdrama?

So yes, there has been a lot of K-drama fans branching out to C-dramas. But I don't see any toku fans branching out/crossing over to K-drama and C-dramas when wuxia C-dramas and K-dramas start to look similar to tokusatsu and I don't see C-drama/K-drama fans branching out to tokusatsu if that K-drama/c-drama fans are watching Wuxia drama, and non-romance sci-fi/fantasy K-dramas.

So yes, it does matter to me that there is not a crossover/branching out between toku fans and K-drama/wuxia C-drama fandom when you see a K-drama fan branching out to wuxia drama. It's no wonder why toku fandom aren't "active" like their K-drama and C-drama counterpart despite K-drama and C-drama are diving into territory that makes them resemble to tokusatsu, and also the fact that wuxia resemble tokusatsu in several aspect

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What makes you think anime fans branch out to k-dramas? I'm very sure some don't. And to those that do, why should it bother you?

OK, how many anime did you watch? How many years of experience do you have with anime?

Because if you're an anime fan, you would've known about the live-action adaptation of anime/manga that South Korea and Taiwan have done. Don't tell me you've never watched the Boys over flowers Korean drama? Did you know City Hunter was adapted into a Korean TV drama? You never watched any of those, did you? Don't tell me you didn't know in early 2000's that Taiwan had several well-known TV drama adaptation of anime/manga like It started with a Kiss (a Taiwanese adaptation of Itazura Na Kiss):



Devil Beside you (a Taiwanese adaptation of the manga, Akuma de Sōrō/The Devil does exist):



Mars (the Taiwanese drama adaptation of the manga of the same name):



Meteor Garden (the Taiwanese adaptation and yep this would later become the basis for the Korean drama adaptation I mention above, and the 2018 Mainland Chinese remake on Netflix. They're all live-action version of Boys Over Flowers):



Even way before K-pop took over the US, and streaming like Netflix would dominate the way we watch our shows. I've heard about these Taiwanese adaptation from anime/manga fans (and Asian-American community) in early 2000's. That's how I know that anime/manga fans are branching out to live-action TV dramas from Taiwan and South Korea in late 2000's and early 2010. The fact that Crunchyroll used to had a big K-drama catalog in 2009 also played a role for anime fans to crossover to K-drama:

Crunchyroll partner with SBS to increase K-drama catalog

Crunchyroll partner with MBC for K-drama catalog

Crunchyroll Offers Top Korean TV Dramas from Leading North American Distributor YA Entertainment

Crunchyroll Adds Korean Live-Action Boys Over Flowers


So yes, there were a lot of anime fans crossing over to Korean and Taiwanese dramas because of these live-action adaptation. And let me try conclude by saying this.

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I suppose what I'm trying to say is, why should we be so worked up about what people do for their choice of entertainment? It's not our duty to shove the 'gospel of toku' or whatever into people's throats. It's entertainment, let people enjoy what they enjoy (unless it's, y'know, harmful to their mental health).

Because and given the fact that anime fans have crossover to K-drama and Taiwanese dramas in early 2000's thanks to live-action adaptation done by South Korea and Taiwan. I would've expected toku fans that are also anime fans to have crossover/branch out to K-dramas and C-dramas, but it doesn't look like the case and that baffle me and why does this leave me baffling. Let me quote what I said to another toku fan via private message:

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Let say there are 10,000 toku fans. Majority of these toku fans are also anime/manga fans. Let called these toku fans that are anime fans: anime/toku fans (these fans watch both toku and anime)

Now you said it yourself that anime/manga is a larger beast. How? Why is this a big deal to someone who watched both anime and tokus?

OK, this is where your statement doesn't hold up. You said anime fans can crossover/branch out to K-dramas and wuxia dramas, so shouldn't that include the anime/toku fans too?

So out of 10,000 toku fans and 95% of them are anime fans. And let say 1,000-3000 anime/toku fans crossover to K-dramas and wuxia C-dramas because they were exposed to K-drama (or Taiwanese drama, it depend on which show is it) adaptation of anime/manga and several wuxia C-dramas (either from their Chinese-American/speaking friends or by chance). So why did these 1,000-3000 anime/toku fans that became K-drama and wuxia C-drama fans never brought up K-drama and wuxia C-drama in their toku community fandom circle (that include Tokunation forum)? Why do I seem to be the only one toku fans that has extensive knowledge of K-dramas, and wuxia C-dramas under my tokusatsu knowledge?

Exactly, if you have let say 500 toku fans that are K-drama fans, C-dramas/wuxia drama fans. Then why did these 500 toku fans never brought up K-drama and wuxia drama into toku fandom when discussing tokusatsu shows. I mean I've seen toku fans talking about Armored Hero from China, but not a single toku fan who watched Armored Hero wouldn't bring up a wuxia or fantasy C-dramas to compared to like let say Ice Fantasy. I never seen any Armored Hero bringing up any wuxia drama they watched to compare Armored Hero to.

Also online I would see anime fans and K-drama fans reaching out recommending K-drama and anime shows for their respective fandom to crossover/branching out, I would see Reddit thread like these:

Any good gateway dramas for anime fans?

K-drama recommendations for anime fan?

What Anime can I recommend for a K-Drama Watcher?

Need some dramatic anime similar to kdrama

Looking to get into kdrama from an anime background!


I never seen toku fans reaching out to K-drama and C-drama fans in the same manner K-dramas and anime fans did. In other I never seen a toku fan doing these, and I can't find any reddit or any forum that do these when I googled them:

Recommended Toku shows for wuxia fans

Toku shows if you love the K-drama, Goblin

If you love wuxia drama, then check out these toku shows from Japan!!!

I'm a wuxia fan, what toku shows would appeal to me?


No, I searched everywhere for any toku fans reaching out to K-drama and wuxia C-drama fans to get them into their fandom and I can never find any Reddit recommendation thread, or any article recommending toku shows to wuxia drama and K-drama fans. I can't seem to find any evidence or proof of toku fans making any attempt to reach out to K-drama, wuxia/c-drama fandom the same way anime fans reach out to K-drama fans, and K-drama and C-dramas reaching out to each other.

That's why it bother me that toku fandom aren't doing the stuff that anime fans, K-dramas fandom, and wuxia/C-drama fandom are doing to get one fandom to crossover/branching out to another.