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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

This thread really is starting to sound like harrassment so I'll be very blunt and try to keep things brief: the world doesn't revolve around what you want.

I didn't say the world should revolve around me. But it doesn't make sense for a large group of toku fans that are also anime fans, or branch out to K-dramas, and other Asian TV dramas to have not brought up or raise alarm about K-dramas and foreign TV dramas gaining popularity amongst US mainstream while toku fandom hasn't seen a big jump in audience share from the same people that watch K-dramas, C-dramas, and other foreign TV dramas.

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You seem to base a lot of your arguments on personal anecdote (e.g. I saw/experienced this so I know this happens, etc.) which indicates this is a personal issue. Your first point is that you're a wuxia fan that branched out to toku and drama. There's nothing wrong with that. However, every human on this planet has a different journey; not everyone will branch out into toku. You cannot experience something and expect others to experience the same experience.

Actually, I based this from talking to fans of K-dramas, wuxia fans, and anime fans. I know not everybody will branch out to toku. But there has to be I don't know a large amount of people that are fans of wuxia C-dramas, and fans of sci-fi/fantasy K-dramas that would've branch out to toku and yet it doesn't look like there was no crossover or any overlap which I found very baffling.

As I said, wuxia and toku shared a lot of similarities, there should've been a crossover/branching out between the 2 of them. And yet, I'm still baffled.

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You also said that if I'm an anime fan I would've known that South Korea and Taiwan did live-adaptations of their work. I am aware. However, what you didn't take into consideration is whether or not I actually give a jackfruit about it. Which I don't.

Yeah, well do you know how many Toku fans I talked to online if they know about K-dramas, and wuxia dramas. 95% of them didn't even know those dramas existed and I asked them why didn't they know or bother to branch out. A lot of them didn't even answered my last question, and I was baffled why they never branch out or not have any knowledge about these dramas.

So you say you're a anime fan, and you knew about these dramas, but you didn't choose to watch them. Then let me ask you these questions:

If you're an anime fan, and you ended up watching tokusatsu shows, then why didn't K-drama, and C-dramas (including wuxia drama) didn't get your attention the first time? Why did you not branch out to K-drama and C-drama when a lot of anime fans (that include those that are also toku fans) did?

Would you branch out to K-dramas and C-dramas if they used toku-like special effect given the number of K-drama(s) now getting into sci-fi/fantasy genre today? Would wuxia drama appeal to you in the same manner you found toku appealing?

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If you really want toku to get more recognition, why don't YOU try and take the initiative and start spreading word around instead of complaining about how toku fans don't seem to spread the word (assuming that you haven't done so already). Be the change you want to see rather than wait for someone else to do it.

I've already did on this forum several times, and I did it on Onehallyu, and I already did it several times on Quora. And guess what the result is: None, no K-dramas or C-dramas fans never talked to me about which tokusatsu shows I would recommend to them. And that's why it bother me a lot. I never had any toku fans on Quora having a conversation with me about why K-dramas, C-dramas fans, and toku fans never overlap.

I don't know where else to go to, I tried everything. I'm not going to get a Reddit account just so I can asked toku fans. No matter where I asked a toku fan online regarding their stance on the popularity of K-drama, and C-drama and why it doesn't alarmed them. They can't seem to answer my question or can't find a toku fans that shared similar concern about toku fandom not being on par with K-drama and C-drama fandom.

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I'm not usually this blunt and I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. However, this is slowly turning toxic. I get that you want toku fans to spread the word out for toku but for goodness sake don't try and prod other people into doing that for you.

Then as a toku fan, why were you not alarmed when the news come out that foreign TV dramas including K-dramas, and C-dramas were getting more audiences in the US then tokusatsu?

The topic of this thread is: Do you want Toku to become more mainstream?

I would've expected the news of more American people that are not of Asian decent watching foreign TV dramas including K-dramas, C-dramas/wuxia dramas would've motivated toku fans beside me to get more involved in getting more people that watched these foreign dramas to watch tokusatsu shows, and trying to reach out to fans of sci-fi/fantasy K-drama, and Wuxia drama fans to branch out to toku.

I started out as a wuxia watcher before I became a toku fan, K-drama fan, Taiwanese drama fans, etc.... I would've expected a lot of C-drama fans that watched wuxia to have branch out to tokusatsu shows given the similarities between toku and wuxia. That is not the case.

I'm very disappointed in the toku fandom for not being pro-active in getting fans of sci-fi/fantasy K-drama, and wuxia C-dramas to branch out/crossing over to tokusatsu shows. By doing that, you can make tokusatsu put on the same rank as K-dramas, and C-dramas.

As I said, many of the recent Super Sentai, Ultraman, and Kamen Rider series that came out in the last 2 years, if they were put on Netflix and heavily promoted and aimed at K-dramas and C-dramas fans on that platform. I guarantee this forum would have more then 20,000-50,000 active members then just a mere 4,000 members (off and on).