[TokuKnight89]

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Originally Posted by xSauriaNx

For me, this isn't the same level as with Monica Rial and Sabat where actual harm is fully done.

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Originally Posted by Annuga

I believe Monica Rial came out as one of the countless people accusing Vic Mignogna of sexual harassment, which after literal years of rumours about this thing led to hin being fired from Funimation and Rooster Teeth. Mignogna actually sued Funimation for this which did significantly worse damage to his career and reputation, not just because his lawyers were completely incompetent and how Vic promoted a gofundme for his attorney fees which I believe he claimed he saw no money from the guy who made it, admitted to deleting messages that were to be used as evidence, ending up having an email from his ex wife shown in which it she implied he regularly had sex with minors, I don't entirely remember if that last one's right but I'm looking through the source on that

EDIT: She was his ex fiancé, not ex wife and only mentioned one woman being a minor when Vic pulled his shit on her

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Originally Posted by TokuKnight89

Yeah, I think I did hear things related to this, but it was sometime ago.

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Originally Posted by mdo7

OK, sounds like you don't watch a lot of anime, or do you not follow anime at all (which is pretty strange, because a lot of toku fans are usually anime fans too).

Go read these ANN articles:

Jan 2019: 'Far From Perfect': Fans Recount Unwanted Affection from Voice Actor Vic Mignogna

Feb 2019: Funimation Will Not Engage Vic Mignogna on Future Productions

April 2019: Vic Mignogna Sues Funimation, Jamie Marchi, Monica Rial, Ronald Toye

Do you get the full story now?

I was aware that controversy surrounded Vic, but the context of how it was mentioned HERE is what threw me off! Originally, Rial and Sabat were the ones mentioned in a previous comment, and I thought that where was something between them that I had missed. I didn't automatically associate it with Vic. Once Vic was mentioned, my memory kicked in.

I do watch anime, but I tend to watch it on Toonami and use that as inspiration. Whenever I stream anime, it's either because I have something very specific in my head at the time (like older Gundam series) or because I've become increasingly engrossed in an anime on Toonami and don't want to wait a week for a follow-up!

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Originally Posted by gllgt

No, what Subaru Kimura did in no way affects my enjoyment of the show. I haven't even seen it. Kimura has taken down the tweets and Toei is no way endorsing his behavior.

The Kamen Rider Duke scandal is far more impactful. His actor was arrested for indecent assault. Twice. That is a HUGE difference between the two actors behavior. One is an offensive joke(s), the other is committing assault. The latter has victims with real physical damage.

Ultimately, "cancel culture' seems to have really bad aim and has odd priorities. When Johnny Depp loses roles and work but Amber Heard continues getting work something is wrong. Abusers are rewarded and victims are punished.

I agree with the fact that what the Duke actor did is quite impactful cause it had direct victims!

There was something on I saw recently that I think is strangely applicable here as well. It wasn't referring to Kimura or the thing he did wrong, but it feels like it could be easily recycled: why is it so difficult for ppl to distinguish between "this person is a literal bigot and should not have a platform" and "this person is not actively malicious but has accidentally done a couple harmful things that should be addressed" and "this person has made a few poor taste jokes several years ago but has since grown as a person" and "this person simply just didn't know the 'proper' term for something"

Do I think Kimura should not have a platform cause he's a terrible person? I'm undetermined cause I only know of the one bad thing he did, but that relates to the second part in that there is no evidence that I know of in which he's actively continuing his stupidity. Of note, the second part does suggest that even old harm should be addressed. The third could definitely be used toward Kimura, but only to a point as deleting a post or two doesn't actually suggest any growth. If evidence is revealed that suggests an apology, then growth can be acknowledged. I don't think this is a moment in which the Fourth part is applicable in the strictest sense, but Kimura has spent time in the U.S. and should've known better!

As to the Depp/Heard case, I'm not particularly knowledgeable in that one. I tend to only hear things in passing, and it has also been awhile there too. Speaking in a less specific context, then I say that when "Abusers are rewarded and victims are punished", it's more about the antipathy toward accountability and consequences...and "C.C." in general!