[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

That's the tragedy of it. Tsukasa always excels at everything the World Of [insert Rider] needs him to do, but the thing he actually enjoys as a hobby, photography, he sucks at. Decade is a generalist, being a collection of 9 preceding Riders all with their own identities and dreams for the future and that's part of why Tsukasa feels so ostracized and rejected by the world. He can't have a dream for the future cause he doesn't even have a present or a past he can cling to. He's a passing through Kamen Rider, like a ghost who passes through his own life, without understanding his place or what he's supposed to do. That's why, unlike Zi-O which is a celebration of Kamen Rider, Decade is more like what connects Kamen Rider across spacetime, being the first major crossover in the Heisei Era and Tsukasa's adventure is also about finding out what Kamen Rider Decade means to him, separate from the legacy he's inheriting.

OK, neat elaboration of that. I don't know much about Decade, purposely not looking into it (due to reputation, due to avoiding spoilers too) and I would just accept this info as new one. I guess Tsukasa feeling so ostracized is... another low point of him (or it's just extension of his photography weakness) unlike the protagonist similar to him, Tendou, who is effortlessly popular like with ladies (in contest with Daisuke).

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Tsukasa agrees to save multiple Earths at the direction of a moon-pointing pretty boy! I would argue that he is very heroic!

Well but did you have a discussion about Tsukasa saving the world due to the fact that he lives there? And negative trait can show up not in things other than motive, which some people can make cruel takes from that like if someone has good motivation then they're innocent regardless what they've done to achieve that goal solely due to the motive - I don't know about Decade yet for the later part (and ofc no spoiler), but example of this case are well-intentioned extremists, who achieves their noble goal by solely doing bad things like lots of bodycounts - the one adopting "the end justifies the means".

And, saving multiple Earths are huge task, but I wanna remind that people who succeed doing that aren't necessarily more heroic (not that it's not heroic, but you saying it 'very' heroic which seems to elevate him higher than anyone due to bigger accomplishment), but they have much more power to do that.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Yeah, this and Gaim... I mean, they're doing different things? Nominally, they're both foreshadowing an epic final battle, but Gaim's is full of characters you haven't met yet. It's an intro that's about inevitability and tragedy: you're going to love these new Riders, and then they're going to try to murder each other for power.

Decade's intro is sort of that, with Decade being some apocalyptic figure, but it's really more about characters you already have an investment in getting slaughtered. It's not really about the mystery, it's about the stakes: this is an event bigger than all nine series put together.

Not saying it's 100% the same but Gaim's intro do have some resemblance to Decade's here. And for "characters you already have an investment"... I mean dunno about the ones in the war, but the Kuuga world at the end of the episode already features different cast.

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Originally Posted by Kurona

Oh talking of Kamen Rides, something else really great about Tsukasa being very different from your typical main Rider in personality is that it means despite wearing the suits of all 9 past Heisei Riders? They still feel uniquely him, he brings his own personality to him and they feel super distinct from how they were previously played! It's just so neat to see suits like Hibiki and Blade played with such swagger to them

So something that'd be similar to Takeru Satoh portraying different aspects of Ryotaro between just himself and his self possessed by each of Taros Imagins?

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

Okay! We're finally here! Decade! Man, always so much to talk about...

- The place I know I want to start is by telling you something that will probably make Die like Tsukasa a whole lot more. His catchphrase of daitai wakatta ("I get the gist of it", or whatever other translations you see) is apparently taken directly from Toshiki Inoue often saying much the same. I've always seen Tendou and Tsukasa as very similar protagonists, but it's been a little surreal finding out both their characters were in some small degree inspired by the same guy, and that guy is Inoue. It does explain a lot though!

Inoue is the name of Tsukasa's actor... Masahiro Inoue.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

He doesn't have time for your details and demands! He's trying to make you feel something.

No offense, this sounds like what Sh Ranger said in Kabuto thread regarding Hopper Brothers... "the type that never learns from his mistakes and is desperate for people to notice him even if it's bad publicity like being a loser and a joke", which is the type of character he hates the most (I wouldn't approve of this behavior either, as it's a trait in real life iirc possessed by numerous trolls or edgelords - of which the Hell Brothers qualify).