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Do you want Toku to become more mainstream
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11-03-2021, 06:23 PM
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mdo7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
RyusoulRed
I also want this weirdo to acknowledge one other thing.
Kamen Rider Amazons, the most adult and mainstream of any Kamen Rider series, is available on Amazon Prime. It never even reached being mentioned in the mainstream. But according to your logic, it should be super popular like Squid Game. What's up with that?
Maybe if Kamen Rider Amazons was Korean or Taiwanese, then maybe it would get more attention (I've heard of people accusing Korea of overshadowing Japanese stuff) but then again Legend Hero is a Korean toku yet it didn't attract K-drama audiences in the west. So as I said, I don't know why toku aren't getting the same type of love a fantasy/sci-fi K-dramas are getting these days.
Also the fact that Kamen Rider Amazons came out in 2016, but didn't get a subtitled release on Amazon Prime in the US until 2018 and the lack of publicity probably is the reason why it didn't get the same attention like Squid Game got.
If you're going to bring up Kamen Rider Amazons on Prime Video, then maybe I should bring up
Netflix's
Alice in Borderland
, which came out a year before Squid Game and had a similar plot like Squid Game. Again:
Why did Alice in Borderland on Netflix not get the same mainstream attention when it came out on Netflix last year despite the plot being similar to Squid Game?
If Alice in Borderland was a Korean-language Netflix drama rather then Japanese, would that have gotten more spotlight because of the K-drama popularity?
Again, there's accusation from fans of Japanese pop culture saying that if these Japanese dramas/toku had been speaking in Korean, then the US media would be giving them more attention in a way
missing white women
get.
If you're asking about why did Kamen Rider Amazons on Prime Video didn't get the same attention like Squid Game got, then I'm going to drag Alice in Borderland into this too.
Also, a person on Twitter (this tweet was shared by
Jake Adelstein
, a famous US reporter who specialize in Japan)
shared on Twitter
about how Squid Game's global success in the US and outside of Asia has made some Japanese upset and probably jealous. Now I don't have an article that can validate this tweet or this fact, but then again when Parasite became the first Korean film to win best picture at the Oscar last year,
Japanese folks & filmmakers were not happy with it
.
I hate to say this again and again: but it's not subtitle that is turning off people in the US and in the west from watching tokusatsu, it's something else. Probably the stereotype of toku being made for kids/youth audience (which I don't dispute). I don't know, but Legend Hero didn't seem to get K-drama fans to watch the show despite the sci-fi/fantasy K-dramas that is starting to come out for the last few years. I can back this up because this Variety article seem to confirmed what maybe some of toku fans that watched foreign-language TV dramas have long suspected:
Variety article:
'Acapulco’ Shows the Power of Multilingual Programming and Growing Subtitle Acceptance Among U.S. Viewers
Mashable article:
Subtitles are the future. Sorry, caption haters
So clearly subtitles is not the one turning off people from tokusatsu.
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