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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Den-O
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11-06-2021, 07:22 PM
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(I am very happy to have this thread to distract me from some very tedious weekly ordering with a vendor!)
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
I recall that was a part of it as well, but your memory would be more reliable than mine here, with you having just watched it. I definitely remember that Momotaros had it rough in this movie though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
Oh the 'homeless Momotaros' thing was in this?? I LOVED that! That was so fun. I couldn't quite recall which movie it was in though I was pretty sure it was in this trilogy
Momo is pretty firmly in a Comedic Suffering role for this film, and it's really great. The entire Den-Liner crew is fairly tangential to what's really going on -- even Deneb is surplus to requirements!
DENEB!
-- so they're here to goof around. The quick gag of Momo becoming
accidentally unhoused
is terrific, if only for how relieved and grateful he is to see Ryotaro, and neither the viewer nor Ryotaro is clear on what the hell is going on. It's a really funny gag (the universe piles it on Momo this movie), but it also manages to get us some exposition for why the contract holder is obsessed with looking awesome for Airi. Smart, economical writing!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
Oh, I know; I just didn't want it to feel like... it was
coming down
on you, y'know? Few things worse than expressing how much you liked something and then getting a bunch of people telling you how bad it is
It's appreciated! I mostly don't mind if my tastes don't align with everyone else's, so as long as things stay civil? I get as much enjoyment out of reading disagreements as the alternative.
Movies like this one... god, it wouldn't bother me if everyone in the world hated it, because I still had my experience with it. It wouldn't be any less special if people thought I was a sap for enjoying it.
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Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
It made me
extremely
happy to see you giving such well-stated praise to this movie for the stuff it does with Airi and Yuuto. I recall you being ~significantly~ less enthusiastic about all the wistful Time Nonsense stuff with them in the series than I am, so it's nice to see Den-O telling a story about that that finally managed to land for you. I don't think there's anything I can really add here, besides saying "yeah, I liked this one too!" Not that I even need to say that when I've made it more than clear what a huge Zeronos fan I am.
You just don't see a lot of other Rider movies willing to have a five minute scene consisting of nothing but two characters chatting over coffee, you know?
The coffee scene is
the best scene in the movie!!!
My favorite motif in the film is how the telescope
is
Sakurai now, and how both Yuuto and Airi feel the weight of him/it as they try and have their little coffee date. Those guilty glances from Airi, the way Yuuto withers a bit under its perceived judgment... it's so good! It's shot and acted so well!
And then the whole metaphor of Yuuto's distaste for bitter drinks! And how that's not what Sakurai would do! And maybe someday Yuuto will drink his coffee like Sakurai! And how that's incredibly unfair to Yuuto that he should have that pressure put on him! And how trapped Yuuto is in his development! And how unfortunately culpable Airi is in maintaining that prison!
!!!!!!!!!
Best scene!
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