[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Yeah, it's like he's trying to create his own Kamen Rider fanfic in real life, creating problems for the heroes to overcome and show their heroism. The Othello board is symbolic of this, with a player having more tiles giving the enemy more opportunity to flip them. A rather literal case of good and evil being two sides of the same coin.

George seems to represent what can happen for the kind of shit-stirrers who stirs up drama, but as usual, amplified by the existence of superpowers in his universe (as usual, supervillains for example can cause damage primarily due to their power, even if they're anti-villains and can be morally 'better' than weaker straight villain). For what you said about "good and evil being two sides of the same coin", I got a feeling that George probably would be someone similar into the likes of DJ Sagara or Blood Stalk, who manipulates both sides that neither will have an advantage (of course this is decided later if George would groom supervillains too for the Riders to face), and in this case, it's to prolong his own KR story in real life, but with little regard to what suffered as a consequence due to the superpowers.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Vice was the MVP of their fight with Evil though, being the only one with the clear head, configuring the Revislasher and trying to calm Revi so he doesn't do anything dangerous. Revi wasn't even thinking about Vice, so they weren't in sync and Evil used that to his advantage. Since Vice is a manifestation of Ikki's hidden desires, it makes sense that there would be a selfish side to Ikki as well, like not believing in others and trying to solve everybody's problems instead of helping them solve their own, hence why he's called the ultimate busybody, similar to Kikuchi Keitarou.

Regarding Vice's incorporeal form, my biggest question is still how he's supposed to eat?

Well, Vice is at least shown to be a cannibal and constantly makes claims to intend to eat humans. Ikki's flaw of not having faith in others I covered too though in the first paragraph of my summary, but you brought up that in my Vice summary instead.

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Originally Posted by Kurona

I still don't get why people think he's the secondary rider. He didn't even appear before Evil and it's not like he's got a presence comparable to Chalice; this is baffling me

From what I've talked with certain someone, their explanation is about how the outro of Demons' debut episode has his stamps being added to the end card alongside Revice's, unlike the outro of Evil's debut episode. Though of course it's more of something in the past, and now it's clearly seen.

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Originally Posted by Pineapple924

Personally I'm just sitting here worried he'll get stuck in Build's "Rogue" situation of:
"What do we do with this extra guy now that he's firmly on the protag's side?"
"Idk just have him do goofy shit, it'll work out."

No offense but I think you're missing some of the nuance of that scene (you talk about Hiromi smiling openly?). Hiromi previously is eager to take down Daiji as per Fenix' orders, and even encourages the hesitating Ikki to do the same (or him giving final blow). That can give an impression that Hiromi may be the pragmatic hero kind and probably can be self-righteous, the "shoot first ask later" type. But the scene of Hiromi smiling due to Daiji coming back to his senses as Live shows that Hiromi still hopes for the best outcome.

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Originally Posted by TheRaizin

But, it's because of his straightforward demeanor and catch phrase that I really love him. Really emulates the showa era rider. Made stronger (albeit not presented well) when it's shown that he's crying inside, a mind of steel with a soft heat.

Oh, so you're also someone who longs for pure classic heroism too. I thought otherwise regarding how Tendou and Tsukasa are your favorites among the main protagonists (and also appreciating Onodera more than Godai), as pure classic heroism is seen in most of the main Riders? Unless you have your own definition of what it means for pure classic heroism (and if people'd want for characters to become like Tendou and Tsukasa.. or Takumi, it'd just make pure classic heroism even more of a rare sight).