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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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03-17-2022, 11:04 AM
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Kamen Rider Die
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DreamSword
I get that. For me though, I was willing to roll with it mostly just due to the whole "alternate timelime" deal Zi-O is going with in these stories. Had this been the Takumi and Kusaka of the "main" universe of Faiz, then yeah, I'd call foul. But as a simple and fun what-if take? I enjoyed it.
Oh, I mean, I
enjoyed
it: it's Kusaka and Takumi immediately brawling enough for a suspect to get away! What is there not to like?
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
I guess Takumi's and Kusaka's toxic template on friendship is the only one comparable to Sougo's and Geiz's dynamic. It's smart how this isn't just a pure Fourze arc cause that probably wouldn't have worked at this point in the story, where the two Riders are still a long way from being anything resembling friends. By using the Smart Brain Riders as an example that friendships aren't always friendly, it might give Sougo some hope that maybe Geiz will start to see him for who he is and forgive him for the sins of his future self. This is one of several ways that Geiz is like Ren, telling himself, "I need to kill this man", but his conscience usually keeps him from going too far.
I guess that's one of my problems? That it's more of a Ren equivalency -- I Have To Kill A Sweet Person And I'm Conflicted About It -- than a Kusaka equivalency? Kusaka isn't pissed off at Takumi (historically) because Takumi is an Orphnoch or because Kusaka is a pragmatic hero; it's because Kusaka is controlling sociopath who resents anyone who tries to puncture holes in his bubble of self-delusion. That's not even a little what Geiz and Sougo's relationship is like?
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