[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I feel like you haven't seen the hat!

The hat?!...is white.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I don't know if that's how I see him? I think Geiz'z off-putting nature and generally rude vibe isn't from certainty, but from fear. He's someone who is scrambling for a solution to a deep despair: I don't think you hijack a Time Mazine and travel back fifty years to execute a teenage version of Time's Best Worst Overlord because you're sure of what's right and wrong.

Like, his whole weird dynamic with Sougo speaks to a kid who wants to portray immovable righteousness, but is psychologically adrift. I don't think he sees what he's doing as the only logical course of action?

Not that Geiz is someone like Button Man, of course, but it's not only regarding Sougo, but also regarding Another Riders previously too. The self-righteous type of characters often are utterly merciless in dealing with those whom they consider evil, of which it applies to both Sougo and Another Rider for Geiz, and can be prone to consider all crimes to be equal, with Geiz looking for excuses to blame Sougo including light offenses as a plausible reason to kill him. That also had him somewhat having With Us or Against Us mentality, that Sougo's disagreements with Geiz with dealing against the Another Rider was also a reason for Geiz to brand him as ultimate evil too (Tsukuyomi was the only person Geiz would listen that time, so she's a clear exception). I guess dunno if Geiz is really about fear and psychologically adrift, or if he won't be necessarily able to carry out his acts, but I thought Geiz showed some characteristics present in characters who'd never felt they're in the wrong.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

KAMEN RIDER HEISEI GENERATIONS FOREVER

Being a fan is a blessing and a curse.

Kamen Rider being there for hardship? W̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶K̶a̶m̶e̶n̶ ̶R̶i̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶t̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ ̶c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶s̶h̶i̶p̶?̶ Otherwise, it'd be still healthy for those who still can live normally like having steady job, while enjoying those KR stuff, but this distinction isn't really easy to spot or distinguish or acknowledged.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I think that?s a fair question? He seems happy. He?s well-adjusted, more or less. His amount of Kamen Rider stuff isn?t out of hand. (Especially considering he?s been collecting for 18 years.) But his love for Kamen Rider, the excitement of its worlds, goes hand-in-hand with him preferring the simplicity of tokusatsu to the complexity of life. He was raised by Kamen Rider to be a good person, but a good person who looks to Kamen Rider for the solutions to his problems.

I don't think Ataru is happy, he clearly had a tragic moment of losing Shingo as well as him feeling so lonely. Not all case of wanting to escape from reality is caused by sadness (like playing games can be done just to have fun), but Ataru's a clear case of that, he wants to avoid the troublesome real life it hands him for. And I guess for him making a wish to Futaro and being desperate of holding his fantasy in shows that he's not done yet for his vow of fixing his problems by meeting Kamen Riders, which'd mean he's still emotionally troubled to that point. It's not a case of someone being troubled finally being able to act upon it (and previously harmless) after gaining superpowers, but Ataru's someone who does come across Imagin wish (also Futaro's a rarity of an Imagin that isn't actually malicious, despite first scenes implying he is), and he had done some mistakes in his choices like what Sento pointed out, him causing grief for his friends like Kazumi, he's not malicious about it but he's still quite desperate with the explanation of this being all fantasy.

He does react with glee when meeting Riders, but I don't think that it means being happy in general, sad people can show occassional excitement like that. And other than that, he reacts the same way when he met Tsukuyomi of what's mistaken as a crush... as well as Tsukuyomi not recognizing that name when he refers to her as that; it should provide some foreshadowing regarding her later. Other than that, I'd like to see what'd be Asumu's reaction, when he met more morally ambiguous Kamen Riders (well, Banjou, Kazumi, and especially Gentoku were, but he met them at the end of the series albeit the former 2 wouldn't be harmful for civilians to approach), or especially an evil one.

Albeit he does eventually lose faith in Kamen Rider when Kazumin refuses to save him from fodders (but that still shows how depressed he is and it became worse), but him as Another Den-O is still likely a corrupted version of him as per usual Another Riders. I guess it's not what the movie intends or what's intended as a consequence for Ataru, but that quite shows, though it's not that KR was fictional but turned fictional by Tid, fantasy fiction stuff existing can make life harder, that there'd be more danger like those monsters Ataru faced, as Kamen Riders would have superpowered foes too, so it wouldn't be better for those stuff to exist in real life.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

There?s a bunch of plot stuff that didn?t work for me. I think the scene to scene storytelling, especially in the back half, was unnecessarily difficult to follow. Certain elements in the movie felt like they were waiting for a guest appearance that never materialized. (Another Double is nobody, and there?s an awful lot of Kuuga talk for a movie where Kuuga never talks.) If I never see two dozen Riders do finishing moves and pose in Kamen Rider Quarry again, I?ll?ve still seen it too many times in my life.

I'd think that the movie's premise is interesting, to have the Kamen Rider characters being pitted against a world where it's like real world, that Kamen Rider is a fictional media (̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶l̶s̶o̶ ̶a̶n̶ ̶U̶l̶t̶r̶a̶m̶a̶n̶ ̶m̶o̶v̶i̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶k̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶m̶i̶s̶e̶)̶. For some 4th wall breaking potential like trivias that the characters learned, or even more regarding the pursuit of erasing Kamen Rider media from history.... like those ".5" episodes that Sougo talked about blowing up Toei building or such. I also think that, though it's inevitable it'd be a mindfuck, pitting Den-O and Zi-O together in time related stuff is also good, like no DenLiner? Use Time Mazine instead.

But I do think that there are some wasted potential or left out stuff (like the Another Double there too, I agree), like Tid's motive for erasing KR, or the missing memories for some of the Riders which'd create some new dynamics between the characters, other than Sougo himself who was a cocky academic ace (as seen in contrast to the ending of him not taking the exam) and then after regaining his memories he reacted surprised to others who also lost their memories. But for others, it was never touched upon of what they're going through or after their memories returned. For Kuuga part, well it's Joe Odagiri not liking toku and leaving it so... I don't think they'd want for Kuuga to appear only like that. Tid is given Kuuga counterpart of "only I can smile" and a shade of Kuuga (Ultimate) Darkness at the end.

Otherwise, there can be negative consequences for KR, as a practiccally violent show (for fighting). It can be concerning when kids watch them is that they play into children imagination and fantasy, so children start to fantasize about being vigilantes (of which this practice should be discouraged). And for the lessons or such, the inherent difficulty in those shows is that all sorts of problems have to be resolved by violence and fighting (otherwise those shows won?t have any action elements), and there are helping people psychologically but it can be overshadowed (like it can involve MOTW).