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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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04-17-2022, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
FreshToku
Obviously it's all because of Sougo and Geiz, and everything from the ten minute or so mark onwards is just about perfect. Them both arrivin at that conveniently empty carpark to keep their horribly sacrificial promises with one another, and Sougo admitting he's fine with all this because this way he gets to see Geiz... Aaghgh! (< good anguish).
Of
course
the top of an open-air car park is empty: it's winter! Who in their right mind would park where their car could get snowed on?! That's why Geiz picked that spot to duel, because he knew it'd be wide-open. He's become quite the tactician!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
FreshToku
I guess the only thing I would change is just have Geiz himself explicitly drop all notion of having a 'final battle' at this point, which would have made Tsukiyomi dropping in begging them not to fight even more funny, and even more sweet as they laugh at her (okay that's rude, I know they're not literally laughing
at
her, but still!)
It's definitely the one Sougo/Geiz thing in the episode that was puzzling to me? There's no reason for them to fight at this point in the episode; Geiz has already said that he doesn't believe Sougo's a threat. I sort of wrote it off as Geiz still wanting to see if he could take Sougo in a fight (sparring, more than fighting), but if anyone has a better read on this part of the episode, please let me know!
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Originally Posted by
TheRaizin
I liked this episode just for that confrontation between Sougo and Geiz. But I don't like that Hiryu got in the middle of it, at least the previous forms got used just to end the 2nd arc.
I mean, Sougo and Geiz needed
someone
to gang up on.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sylarking
Hiryu sucks
He... does not have a lot of fans, no.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Androzani84
?Thank you for watching Kamen Rider Zi-O. It?s okay not to watch next week.? - Inoue?s Twitter after this episode.
ALL INOUES FOREVER!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Daikaijuman54
Not a bad arc, but probably not one that even qualifies as "okay," lots of buildup, with somewhat unsatisfying results, but I guess it's good that these past four episodes weren't Rider tributes.
Yeah, I liked that they made space to tell a Geiz/Sougo story, without trying to wedge in, like, a Kabuto homage or something.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
You can call Hiryuu lame and shallow all you want, and I'll
agree
, and tell you that's exactly why I like him.
Bless you. Never change.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fish Sandwich
I don't know, I guess I should cut myself off soon, because I could ramble about this one for ages, so I'll just mention that, as you can probably tell from that last paragraph, Sougo's speech to Hiryuu is a scene that's always really stuck with me in particular. Sou Okuno absolutely nailed the delivery on those lines, I fundamentally love seeing the hero just making such an earnest plea for an antagonist not to waste their life, and as FreshToku has mentioned already, it's the scene that debuts what might be my favorite track of the show, combining with the new battle theme from the (amazingly fun!) Another Rider All-Stars showdown to make Toki no Ouja into a backbone of the show's soundtrack for the rest of the run.)
It's a really good speech from Sougo. It gets at a lot of what this series has been smart about, how there are all these things happening to and around us, things we can't control, but our power lies in how we deal with those things. Sougo feels bad about how a bus accident that was centered on him ended up hurting other people, but he obviously didn't ask for it to happen, and he can only try to deal with the aftermath. It's the difference between regret and responsibility, which is sort of the main thing this story arc was about?
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