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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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04-24-2022, 02:11 PM
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I wouldn't say this is a moral/immoral beat. It's just Sougo valuing... not "determination", or "willpower", but the necessary optimism to hope for a better future, and the belief in yourself to make that future come true. It makes Sougo sad to see
anyone
give up on themselves, or to be pessimistic about the future.
No, I'm just making a statement of my own. Sougo definitely doesn't talk about that. Though I thought before that giving up on themselves is related to determination and giving up and turn pessimistic means the opposite of that.
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 31 - ?2001 - AWAKEN YOUR AGITO!?
As far as third act reveals go, Tsukuyomi Might Be A Time Jacker is one of the least surprising. Ever since the first episode (I think?), there?s been that shot in the opening credits of Tsukuyomi descending a flight of stairs, flanked by vanishing Time Jackers. The none-too-subtle implication is that Tsukuyomi?s history is tied up with the Time Jackers, and that she?s probably one of them.
This gives something to know more from Tsukuyomi, and this is something that obviously I didn't talk before due to spoilers, but it's something teased in Heisei Generations movie with Tsukuyomi not recognizing that name when Ataru refers her as that, it's shown here that Tsukuyomi had amnesia and it's not her real name. But what 'different goal' Tsukuyomi actually have by this? There's nothing changed regarding that, unless you're likely talking about speculations in the future, she's still someone who wants to change the future for the better and guide Sougo on the right path. Nothing different in goal. Other than that, Tsukuyomi here is just depicted as having similar power to Time Jackers to Z̶A̶ ̶W̶A̶R̶U̶D̶O̶ stop time,
not
necessarily that she's one of them. She just can stop time. I don't know how Tsukuyomi can narrate her backstory when she forgot though, Woz was the one that has extensive knowledge for the future of which he's too sueful.
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But I do like how Shouichi?s journey is a good template for what Tsukuyomi?s bound to learn: labels are pointless, never be afraid to be true to yourself, and trust in your friends to care about you. (If no one says Tsukuyomi Is Tsukuyomi, I?m going to completely lose my shit. It?s right there!!!) That part of Agito was my favorite, give or take a Houjou. I liked how it was a series about suspicion, and mistrust, and how we fear losing acceptance even as we sometimes resent the need for it; but then finding out that we can only be our best selves when we stop thinking of ourselves as less than our best selves. Real self-improvement only happens with self-acceptance.
True, regarding how Zi-O is an anniversary show that makes use of past Riders, amnesiac Shouichi would be suitable pick to use against amnesiac Tsukuyomi. The other pick could be someone like Sento, but Zi-O's first tribute was Build, so for characters meant to be shrouded in mystery like her.... Despite that though, Sento also pulls the past being pointless when questioned by Banjou about how Sento prefers being Build rather than looking for his past (though he'd act rash when his past was involved). Of which Tsukuyomi also doesn't seem to be someone mainly seeking for her past (not that she isn't fully unaffected by her past stuff), her goal is not changed from her other appearence, to create better future for others. But finding your past can be also really damn important to accomplish your current goal too though! Regardless of how your personal feelings towards them are though, Swartz and Tsukuyomi's confrontation at ep. 28 was really meaningful and their feud continues here (d̶i̶d̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶e̶r̶m̶ ̶'̶d̶o̶-̶g̶o̶o̶d̶e̶r̶'̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶i̶g̶n̶o̶r̶e̶ ̶T̶s̶u̶k̶u̶y̶o̶m̶i̶ ̶a̶t̶ ̶e̶p̶.̶ ̶2̶1̶-̶2̶8̶?̶), Swartz's the main one related to Tsukuyomi.
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There?s a serenity to that message, and it was such a huge part of the Shouichi character. It?s fantastic to see that the actor still has it, that warmth and tranquility. Just
seeing
Shouichi was a delight, and this episode delivered some very fun additional Agito alums. Omuro, captain of the still-hopeless G3 Unit! Mana, looking only vaguely like she should be adorned in timepieces, but still working in food service! And Anotherer Agito, who is now some sort of zombie that wants to turn G3 operators/equippers into more Agitos! (Hoping Hikawa is Anotherer Agito, because him desperately wanting to be a powerful hero and it endangering all of his coworkers is a
super-duper
Hikawa story.)
As Agito is stylized as AgitΩ, Sougo thinks it's Agitomega of which is a gag that Woz has to correct (s̶o̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶ ̶g̶a̶g̶,̶ ̶w̶r̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶r̶r̶e̶c̶t̶e̶d̶!̶). Don't know if Shouichi pulls stupid and exposable move or that it's actually a smart one for others, as his restaurant has Agito namesake and thus Sougo easily uncovers the problem by searching towards it. Another(er) Agito being zombie attack makes it a one of a kind among Another Riders, it's different from others that There can only be a single Kamen Rider Agito active, anyone else just becomes either an offshoot creature like Gills or the original Another Agito. It means that the Time Jackers' Another Agito can exist in hordes, though Shouichi isn't entirely affected by the Another Watch making alterations to his timeline. The other problem, likely more about the Rider device, is the limit of Quiz's power, as Woz uses it, he doesn't get an answer as his question was not predetermined. So that still means somehow Quiz still exists despite White Woz's timeline erased.
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