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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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05-01-2022, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I don't know about humor or fan service being the 'solution' to make 'asking questions' good/better (the "more palatable" part), when it should be about putting actual effort in writing it well. Those 2 traits are different categories altogether.
I mean, it's what I'd like to see? It improves my experience of watching table-setting episodes? I'm not sure I'd phrase it differently.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
I forgot about this one but I'd wish if Kagami would talk about why he wants to beat him (including to stop him from harming others as reason) or his ZECT related occupation to (not merely the professionalism aspect but about he himself there).
Kageyama is a Worm sent to infiltrate and, eventually, destroy the Earth. That's all the motivation Kagami ever needed!
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Originally Posted by
cosmicrescend0
Does the revelation in this episode imply that the dumpy hat and oversized jacket is just what Swartz likes to wear? Kinda hilarious,,
If my older brother dressed like that, I'd get some amnesia, too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Enchilada645
Also I recall Tendou's actor talking to Kagami's about the Kabuto bit and how he watched the episode and said something along the lines of "It really fits you" I just found it kinda cute that he basically gave Kagami his own blessing in a way after the episode.
Aw, that's very cute! I like when even the guys they can't get back end up caring about their show's legacy.
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Originally Posted by
DreamSword
Like, it's basically no contest when it comes to these episodes vs the Decade episodes, considering not only were the plot of the latter outright nonsensical, but the moral(s) they tried to push were uh, baffling, to put it lightly.
Oh, god, this was
light years
better than the Decade story for Kabuto. Please don't make me remember that!
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Originally Posted by
DreamSword
As for the context of the story that these episodes in an of themselves(and again, haven't seen Kabuto yet so if I'm way off then whoops!), my read was that Kagami was once obsessed with getting the Kabuto Zector, and it was only through admitting to himself that someone else was better suited for it and not letting it hold him down anymore that he was finally able to grow as a person, and thus the Kabuto Zector allowed itself to be used by him. It's very basic symbolism, and allows Kagami be the one to finish the fight.
That is
definitely
the impression this episode wants to give you about Kagami's feelings after Kabuto! It's just not really accurate?
Like, they used a couple clips that
are
from Kabuto, but they're slightly out of context. Kagami
did
want the Kabuto Zecter... but for, like, an episode. Gatack did fight Kabuto... but it ended up not being a huge part of the series or anything. Kagami's arc in Kabuto was him realizing that he'd always feel inferior as long as he kept measuring himself against Tendou, so he needed to
stop doing that
. To have him be like I Always Felt Like A Failure Because I Wasn't Kabuto is a) not really his arc in the series past, like, the first dozen episodes; and b) weirdly dismissive of his many successes as his own hero. The one thing Kagami never lacked in Kabuto was willpower and a stubborn/stupid (it depends if you ask Tendou) belief in right and wrong.
Anyway, long story short, Zi-O kinda needed to cheat to give Kagami an arc in this story that resolved via obtaining the Kabuto Zecter.
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