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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zi-O
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05-16-2022, 04:21 PM
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 48 - ?2068 - OMA TIME?
It?s perfect, that message. The irony of a show about a boy who was destined to be king, saving the day by delegating and cooperating, is delicious. The fact that Trinity Form was how Oma Zi-O could be bested, because Oma Zi-O never had friends? I love it so much. It takes the four dozen little moments with these characters and forges them into a weapon capable of battling a god. It all feels like the best reward possible for people who emotionally invested in this show, because it?s explicitly about the inevitable value in connecting with people, how the future becomes brighter if we?re all there together. It?s everything Sougo ever said about making a future for everyone. Oma Zi-O only made a future for himself, and look how he got beat.
In Oma Zi-O's defense, he was deliberately only using a fraction of his power. His physical attributes aren't what's impressive about him, but rather all the OP time manipulation he can do. He can't throw everything he has at Sougo, as destroying his past self would erase his present. But in the fair fight that happened where Oma Zi-O was merely humoring his past self, the underdog Zi-O Trinity showed their true power, being the symbol of the magic of friendship that was born on the new Day of Oma, in addition to the individual powers of Kamen Rider Geiz and Woz. Of course, Oma Zi-O isn't disappointed at all, he wins no matter the outcome since he genuinely supports Sougo to follow the path he believes in.
I agree it's an awesome conclusion to Sougo's quest to surpass Oma Zi-O, by realizing that even if Oma Zi-O is the most powerful man in the universe, he's pitifully lonely and self-obsessed. Power alone isn't enough to change that. In the midst of all this Swartz-related Time Nonsense, I'm grateful that this show managed to spare one more episode to focus on what's really important.
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Zero's Zi-O Weird Theory Ted Talk
In 2058 in a different world, Swartz and Tsukuyomi are members of a royal family. Swartz discovers there are multiple worlds all out there and that his world is going to decay and be destroyed due to not having a protector while the others do. Now note I use the term protector because while people bring up the Shinkenger argument, the Shinkenger's while not being Riders still serve the same role regardless. They're like a Rider Expy, this world seemingly has no one in it to act like that. Now then to prevent the collapse of his world and be herald as his world's savior and king he wants to merge a bunch all together then have them destroyed so his world is the only world left but needs a catalyst.
Remember at this point in time in Swartz' perspective, the worlds are split and separate with different Riders in them. They also don't deliberately say who belongs to what world which I think is the key to having a flexible mindset about this.
This is a pretty decent headcanon. I guess it kind of makes sense that Kamen Rider would be used as a synonym for superhero in general, considering how this is a Kamen Rider show. Like, if Swartz's world really is completely devoid of any superheroes or some meaningful force of good, then yeah, that world is totally screwed. Same goes for evil, as a source of adversity to push people to become better. On the surface, I think it seems weird that the timeline itself would basically give up on existing for that reason, like it has a will of its own, but playing with that concept, I imagine it sees that lack of balance for how destructive it is, so it just speeds up that process to its natural end.
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So he travels to 2009 and gives Sougo a piece of his powers, and as a result Sougo begins to draw the Rider worlds together that already exist, basically Showa to Kiva and probably some AR Worlds here and there. This essentially starts kicking off the plot of Decade where like, worlds are just randomly crashing into each other for some reason. This is where Decade comes in and while Decade is a mess, his role is simple?
"Decade has no story?"
In a sense that's true because his role is simply a means to an end, a tool for stabilizing the Rider Worlds as he runs through the events of his "plot" and basically makes a semi-consistent but still messy amalgamation world of various continuities that aren't exactly in sync with each other. And thus we get the Main Rider World we've been with since W where seemingly every Rider is integrated into it. Riders from W onwards are born into this new world but it's not exactly consistent or stable, which is why there are slight gaps in continuity and things that don't add up but they're relatively harmless. But those gaps in continuity and stuff basically mean the worlds can't ever fully become one
yet
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Okay, this is where I personally think your theory breaks my suspension of disbelief. I've always taken for granted that Tsukasa, due to his unique existence as the Destroyer of Worlds, was responsible for the various worlds fusing in to one. Remember that Tsukasa found out about his dimension crossing power when he was a kid and all his exploits as the leader of Dai Shocker occurred before the start of his show in January 2009, which in turn occurred before the bus incident of April 2009. The Tsukasa of that time was already on his Journey Through The Decade before Sougo was even in the picture. Furthermore, what reason would 9 year-old Sougo have to start fusing the worlds? I feel like that would have to be tied to his dream power, but the only one he ever mentioned was the recurring one with the past Swartz.
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(I strangely found him tearing the book in Over X Quartzer simultaneously blasphemous and wonderful)
That action was so powerful that Woz managed to destroy SOUGO's Heisei Vaccum all on his own!
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