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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

So first off, thanks for responding. Uh... I wasn't actually expecting anyone to respond so it's always cool to see people dig into some of the weird things I say sometimes. Plus this helps out in many ways when I see people questioning my theories and stuff cause as a fanfic person and one who likes to build off of Canon via Headcanon's, outsiders looking in with their comments is always welcome for me.

No problem. Us writers should help each other out!

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

That being said to address the Sougo part of this, 48 sorta implies from Tsukasa's words and Sougo's reaction that Sougo was pulling the worlds together subconsciously ever since that event in 2009, he wasn't actively thinking about it.

As for the whole date start of Kamen Rider Decade and the date of April... I admittedly have nothing there. But if I had to guess 2019 me's reasoning for like brushing past this detail... and what I recall nowadays for the most part I really don't put much stock in dates unless a show has heavy seasonal changes. Like with Decade you could very well just say it happened post April 2009 in the span of like a month or a few weeks since aside from like a few outfit swaps here and there, there's never really any big like seasonal moments in the show.

At least that's how I think my 2019 Self was thinking when he made this theory like nearly 3 years ago. lol

Well the events of Ghost did last 6 months in universe, despite the show running for a year as usual. So now that you mention it, I guess it's possible that the events of Decade started later in the year considering how each episode leads in to the next without any implied breaks.

My own headcanon for Tsukasa and Sougo is a little different, where Tsukasa fuses the worlds which therefore creates the possibility for Oma Zi-O to exist at the center of those worlds, by inheriting all those powers (in other worlds, Oma Zi-O is also Decade's fault). But the outcome of those mechanics is similar to what you've suggested.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 49 - ?2019 - APOCALYPSE?

Geiz?z death scene, for example. The emotion in the scene is touching, and the long-awaited moment of Geiz calling Zi-O ?Sougo? ? with his dying breaths ? was exactly as devastating as you?d imagine. (Are we all crying right now?) But it comes on the heels of a somewhat random Geiz sacrifice, and directly before Tsukuyomi decides that she?d rather wait until after Geiz has been murdered to turn on Swartz, so it all feels a bit tainted. The entire final battle has that same taint to it, with Swartz?z goal of stealing Oma Zi-O?s power being thwarted by, like, him not actually being able to do that? It retroactively confirms Swartz?z plot to be even dumber than you could?ve feared, which is not the ideal note for the climax of a year-long series. It makes the events of the middle of this episode feel arbitrary and irrelevant, an action-packed distraction from anything that makes sense or is worth investing in.

Remember, Geiz already called Sougo "Sougo" before, when he and Tsukuyomi were fading away in Over Quartzer. However, this time in the finale was memorable as well, I thought it showed amazing acting from both Okuno and Oshida, they really sold those emotions with Geiz leaving behind his grudge against Oma Zi-O and giving his blessing to Sougo to become that man, believing he won't become the same evil demon king as the future Oma Zi-O, since this is the Sougo he knows, the one who cares about his friends and wants to become king to create a better future. Arguably, you could say that Sougo succeeded, in a very weird way....

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

And then the aftermath, as we?ve wound things back to the beginning, to September of 2018. But it?s a better version of the beginning, a future version, where the lessons of the last year are built into the foundation of the world. Where the battles and rivalries of this show get recast as supportive friendships and second chances. Where Oma Zi-O still might exist at some point in the future, but Sougo?s support network has never made him feel farther away. Where everyone gets to see what future awaits them.

The future of Rider Time Zi-O VS Decade! Look forward to that!

Oh and I guess I should congratulate you. IWAE! Kamen Rider Die has finished his journey through the Heisei Era, in only a quarter of the time it took me to reach that point earlier this year!

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

Apocalypse Time! It's Episode 49.....

-The "Tsukuyomi betrayed us?!" twist feels so deeply insulting than I'm struggling to find the words to express my dislike of it? It'd be one thing to do the pledge of alleganice to Swartz, and then cleverly cut around the boys' conversation afterwards to imply something else is up, of course, but this....Hearing Geiz say "Why you'd do it, Tsukuyomi?!" with earnest geniunely made my heart sink? Like seriously? Now, of all times? When we literally did this bit a couple episodes ago....????

There was a lot of hype for Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi in the finale, but damn, she quickly succumbed to that Female Rider Curse, barely doing anything important, before being killed by Swartz. Tsukasa gave a poor explanation for why Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi is supposedly such a big deal and while she may have been the solution to the whole timeline collapse problem, the execution of it, like everything else in that Swartz subplot, feels so lacking!

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

-However brief, Uncle's moment in this geniunely hit? When he came out with all the watches I felt the biggest smile creep on.

They don't call him the Greatest Clock Repairman In History for nothing!

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Originally Posted by Switchblade

So, the ending. Apparently all I really remember about this is the ending with everyone together in high school, including all of the characters that shouldn't have been born yet. I'm pretty sure there was some kind of ploy with Tsukuyomi, who gave Necrom Pink a run for her money in terms of Kamen Riding time. I don't remember anything about the final battle or how it played out, or if Ohma Zi-O came back for one last fight or not. Geiz died, I guess? Bummer.

But no, I mostly just remember the very end, which was... fine, I guess. Timeline logistics aside, I thought it worked as a more upbeat version of Ryuki's ending. All in all, though, just not something that left a very strong impression on me.

It's not like our Sougo ever knew the Myokoin family, so does Geiz like have totally unrelated parents now? Tsukuyomi's name was never Alpina? Everybody's suddenly calling each other with honorifics? Honestly, these questions aren't even important, since the most shocking part about all this is that Geiz doesn't have his collar anymore! Someone call Tsukasa to destroy this broken world!

I do tolerate this ending better than Ryuki's though, since at least it's not a return to status quo. Another way of thinking about it is that our Sougo is like Amazing Sougo and he just created the Ultimate Sougo universe or something. Maybe the best way to approach this new universe is to try and dissociate it from the one that created it. However, I still think Build creating World C is the best reset ending I've seen in KR.

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Originally Posted by Rei

So, technically Sougo separated the worlds and undid all the time mishaps caused by the Another Riders and the Time Jackers, that most likely mean things like Kenzaki and Hajime losing their undead attributes did not happen. Or maybe not, I don't know, but Sougo puts everything back the way it was to enable everyone to move forward to the future much smoother, with everyone able to live relatively peaceful lives. All at the cost of his own memories and powers, giving up the kingship dream.

Except that's not exactly it. I like that the despite Sougo's act, he's still one day destined as the king of time, Ohma ZI-O is an inevitablity.

I feel like this is only fair to the seasons that came before, restoring them to how they were prior to the Time Jackers' meddling and their interactions with Team Zi-O. But I recall the moral Sougo learned in the Gaim arc, that people are capable of taking care of themselves. Like, maybe it'll take a little longer for Kiriya to grow in to his role as Hibiki's successor. Maybe Kanzaki will finally snap and restart the Rider War. Even without the events of Zi-O, I think some of the development we've seen with the Legend Riders could still happen anyway, with obvious exceptions like Takumi and Kusaka. Shirakura actually pointed out that Sougo obtained the Double Ridewatch in canon through an event similar to HG Forever, but not exactly the same way. Our Sougo may have failed to become king in the main timeline where Over Quartzer didn't happen, but he passed on that dream to the New Sougo. Someday, some iteration of Sougo will become king, he will make that dream a reality!