[DreadBringer]

So turns out that Revice does have typical secondary Rider, but it happened later, with Daiji now acting like most of them.

Being the most rigid and logical of the siblings (other than his recent actions to fight off Akaishi), it's kind of expected he'd eventually take the easiest route to preserve the human race, by now siding with Akaishi. Siding with a nutcase like him would mean Daiji is now corrupted to some extent though, sharing some of his extremist views, with the logical part of him is directed into the mistaken belief of cynicism being an indication high intelligence, with how he insists that he knows best answers, and refuses to believe anything differently, forcing others to share their characteristics. And if they don't comply, the usual weapon is ofc mocking opposing worldviews, like it being 'naive', done against Ikki striving to create the best outcome. Now the secondary Rider berating primary Rider's worldview happened in Revice too. The family resemblance is also done this late, that Daiji is the one that resembles Junpei, being a pure raging berserker in his Holy Live fight. Though for now, while under Akaishi, Daiji still didn't commit evil directly and even tried to rein Akaishi down by not releasing demons. So Daiji now is still good (unlike Hiiro in Ex-Aid against Masamune), but turning into an anti-hero kind, like how Junpei was as KR Vail, and typical secondary Riders (even Yukimi acted like the "primary Rider" to Junpei's "secondary Rider").

And by above, Micchi now has returned to the franchise. To be specific, I meant Hiromi-cchi. I wonder if Hiromi, also previously impulsive and reckless, has changed and would be the one to guide Daiji in his now reckless actions.

It's already teased, but Akemi too, actually a teased major character that is killed earlier. She was presumed dead when she broke into the ViStamp room, of which she was actually captured, but actually that didn't extend her for long. I guess she's killed so the Igarashi siblings can't get their hands on the Giff power she has? And as known here Akaishi also made a scheme to put a rift between Daiji and his family, particularly Ikki, by showing a footage of Revice fighting (soon) Dead-man Akemi. Though as said by others, it's also a severe miscommunication that Ikki and Sakura didn't properly tell about their plan, and that actually does grate on me, I kept yelling inside to explain clearly to Daiji before it's too late or before the conflict escalated. I wonder if Daiji here has some parallel with Sakura, while Daiji now supports extremist methods (Akaishi's) more, Sakura also supports extremist methods (Bon's, Seiko's) before she became Jeanne. Sakura loses that outlook (pointing out that Giff takes away freedom) while Daiji gains that outlook. Now Daiji's the one that gotta be handed this:



This also seems to be the start of Karizaki resolution. Still about George either tuning out or calling out Masumi for shits he pulled or Masumi self-depreciating and taking any contempt towards him, but now George views Weekend as an excuse for Masumi to hide behind banner of justice (like faking), and Masumi revealing his burned face (as per Vail Legacy Part 5), with George still accusing him as sympathy hungry with his injuries and that he's not the only one with scars. Despite wondering of what George'd meant, it seems that George's KR fanboy traits are also neglected for now. Man, Revice abandoned its roots other than the family part, like even if George is redeemed, the KR fanboy can still be used or even better to have him being a fan of KR for its values now.

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Originally Posted by TheRaizin

"But Rei, you liked Faiz which was misunderstanding-incarnate!"

The difference is that Faiz's characters are likeable enough for me to get on board with it, plus execution matters. I read it that the Faiz cast are all so broken as people that it's understandable that it happens. The siblings all live together, understand each other. Why is Daiji excluded from Weekend's briefings? Do they not have contact each other? Do they not ever check up on what Daiji is doing day-in-day-out? Does Daiji not even go home anymore?

B-but rule of thumb in some place is that you'd have to be focused only on one or certain characters, like the most memey catchphrase ones! Like other than Hiromi in Revice, only talk about Kusaka and the smirk/grins for Faiz, Kuroto and KAMI-DA for Ex-Aid, Woz and IWAE for Zi-O, etc. Don't ruin the fun by bringing up anyone else!

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Originally Posted by cosmicrescend0

-Hey, Weekend? Not to diminish your efforts on anti-Fenix PR strategy or whatever, but like. Some good edvience that Akaishi's up to no good, might be nice? Maybe even get one of the Riders to tesify for you, since theyre the ones the public knows that have been protecting them from demons and all that......

Agreed. Though it's good that Weekend operated more, even complete with Kimiko, why the good guys (though a shadier one here) are usually made to be the more 'incompetent' one? They do have some moving speech there, but often stories portrayed them as the one putting less effort in their plans, compared to the villains, like Akaishi at least pretending to be hurt by Giff, or using footages to his liking. If Weekend would use that, it'd not even be a dirty/shady move to combat Akaishi. Obviously... this is still mid to late series so the villain can't be fully exposed, but this portrayal (and often) quite makes being good look bad and the reason to appeal into for example, extremist schemes (more prevalent on better characters than Akaishi).

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Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich

To be fair to Daiji, he had just gotten done fighting an entire army of mooks sent for the express purpose of tiring him out so he'd get messed up by the boss monster. You know, while everyone else was laughing it up celebrating Aguilera's debut as a Rider. ...Man, maybe Daiji should be a little upset with everyone? We're up to this many Riders and literally none of them were there when he needed it.

Mooks shouldn't actually tire a regular Rider, let alone a huge upgrade on that. Peak humans like Sakura (at the very first episode) took them no problem and later Ikki too. But then again, are the Giff Juniors actually drastically buffed now (Phase 1 Deadmans like Kimura's Rafflesia are actually said as stronger, not this one)? Any Riders fighting them seems to be exhausted despite beating each of them without problem, either it Holy Live (if it's the reason he performed worse than Jeanne, depends on how much Hell Gifterian was toying with them), or also Hikaru (still as Over Demons) and Aguilera here. Aguilera got exhausted more than her debut against Vail?

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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast

Anyway, I'm with Daiji on this one. He's a man with a completely broken spirit. And his siblings still hide things behind his back.

This seems to be more typical, of prefering any secondary Rider to any primary Rider (and treating anything a secondary Rider says as right). So.. this means only by making Daiji someone similar to most secondary Riders... he can win the audience? By giving a character a tragic moment and also have them succumb to bitterness. Regarding Ikki not being called out (well, he got beaten up here), actually even Vail Legacy also didn't have Yukimi's busybodiness addressed.

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Originally Posted by Enchilada645

It really fits in that it makes sense that Holy Live really feels weaker than a usual upgrade in comparison to higher level threats. And how it basically replaced base Live entirely. Dude became an angel and discarded his inner demon, became pure, in a series where you're meant to grow with your inner demon/accept them.

Don't know how Daiji is more pure here. He actually pulled something worse than anything he did before to support Akaishi and looking down on other's worldview. He became more of a douche than ever, now similar to many secondary Riders. Daiji never pulled something like this with Kagerou around. So Daiji has become 'badder' than ever without Kagerou around, or that Kagerou must manifest stronger than ever with how fallen Daiji has been now.