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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zero-One (and builds SO-DO)
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06-24-2022, 08:49 AM
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 6 - ?I WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE?
Memorializing someone through technology, it?s become more and more commonplace. Facebook pages are left as monuments to lives, photos are preserved digitally, machine learning is bringing stills to life? and that?s not even counting speculative tech like holograms or whatever.
Technologies are used for varying reasons, but now I realized here that a good number of it was also about preserving memories, and that even what Seiji does here is more 'normal' than I thought to be one of those preservers, but with more advanced technology in his world though. Though even limited on social medias, photos, etc. for real life, there can still be a abhorrent approach regarding that level of technology. Wonder what'd be the equivalent of Seiji remaking Sumire as Seine in real life technology (not literally, but similar approach).
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Kamen Rider Die
What we get here is messy, and that?s as it should be. Seiji knows he broke the law, and he knows that buying a simulacrum of his deceased daughter to live out that woman?s unrealized dreams is, at best, uncomfortable to witness, and at worst, nauseating to telescope out. (It
definitely
robs that deceased woman of her individuality and personhood, flattening her existence down to Daughter and nothing greater.)
And Zero-One isn't the only piece of media that features a dead family being remade in a robot resembling them, like for example the game featured in Ex-Aid that fueled Nico's early character also had that, Tekken, of which of course the creationg being based on a family member won't be addressed much either in negative or positive light (probably due to the creator not being featured much, Seiji is featured even if only for a week). Otherwise, as you said, Fuwa not shooting the suspect first is to be commended there, but it shows why someone who is 'bad', in law's eyes, isn't necessarily deserving of death (and that those who wants to immediately kill anyone bad would be wrong).
Like, Seiji probably does have psychological problems going through his daughter's death, but that's something that needs some understanding from other party to potentially improve the suspect's condition, of which of course a typical primary Rider like Aruto can do his job well there, being conflicted on what to do against someone that is wrong but tragic like Seiji, had to be either punished or being understood, not to mention, being pretty harmless in his practice (other than Magia stuff, of which at least his love for his daughter is genuine, if not probably misguided here), though perhaps the device Aruto gave him is even more private as you said. Though Aruto's 'replacement' of a father was given to him instead of being made like Seiji's, that'd be the drastic difference.
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Kamen Rider Die
Added to this exploration of a parent?s love is Jin?s attempt to understand what it is to be a son to Horobi. For Horobi, it?s the best possible definition for a lifeform he made, and that's all. For Jin, it comes with expectations of affection and support, which turn out to be
laughably
mistaken once Horobi slaps a Forceriser on Jin and says Go Kill. Luckily (for us, only for us) that leads to an exciting action sequence where the brand-new Kamen Rider Jin proceeds to wipe the floor with Zero-One. Valkyrie shows up to sell the new Lightning Hornet Progrise Key, defeating the episode?s Magear with electricity attacks (!) and chest bees (?!), and it?s all very thrilling. Super fun action sequence.
Jin too here learned some other humanity trait, though he's still horrible overall here, that typically a sane parent would be devoted to a child and do anything to protect them (ironically, there are many evil parents in KR). Now Horobi declaring his fatherhood actually hinders MetsubouJinrai.net a bit on Jin freezing. And that'd mean, Horobi's an abusive dad as Jin notes before he reverts back to his psychotic self. Though Horobi here doesn't actually use his dad position to, order Jin to obey anything he says without second thought or something, which still makes Horobi a parent-in-name-only in my eyes as for this part.
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Kamen Rider Die
The problem, for me, is that the action sequence is almost
hilariously
incongruent to the pathos and sorrow of the preceding two Acts. We pivot from a man trying to navigate a future without the person he cared the most about, and a robot boy trying to understand what means to have a parent, to a frog-headed monster (with a smaller, human-sized head inside its mouth) and a mute supervillain brawling with superheroes. It all happens so gracelessly that it?s almost offensive, and it keeps the finale from feeling like a natural consequence of the story we were invested in. It?s like someone put the last reel of Iron Man at the end of Ordinary People. We were having a nuanced, complicated discussion about processing grief, and then the episode blew all that up to, uh,
blow stuff up
.
I guess it's just how Zero-One doesn't pull punches here, attacks and assaults can happen without knowing or caring about how tragic or complicated a situation is. Kinda more 'realistic' to not have action being telegraphed in a better light due to pre-determined scenarios. But probably the attack is important for Jin's character arc to display his current dilemma while still being overall psychotic, and Horobi still offers some parallel regarding parenting. And if the offensive part also includes Yua intervening and talking down Aruto's thoughtful approach, then, of course it's meant to be offensive, for her being actually dark and suspicious character, but especially regarding the man Yua answered to.
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE SO-DO AI 03: KAMEN RIDER JIN - FLYING FALCON
I?m a big fan of the MetsubouJinrai suits. Probably my favorite designs for the whole show, that I?ve seen? I like how Jin?s suit is highly symmetrical, but the different types of metal add a discordant look to everything. (Which the SO-DO stickers replicate really well!) It?s even and uneven simultaneously, which is tough to pull off without looking goofy. The different textures to the metal add to the feeling that this suit is kit-bashed, stolen from another source. The straps continue that expression, missing the cleanliness of Zero-One and the shiny craftsmanship of the AIMS suits. This one?s aggressively tactical and practically hotwired. It
looks
like a villain suit. The helmet?s a nice finishing touch, the profile of a soaring falcon giving the eyes a menacing triangular shape.
Just like Vulcan, if this is something that worked on you, this is also only the beginning. But it's a nice design yeah and a bit of a fresh air compared to the other Riders so far. The asymmetrical part actually also indicates on how ForceRiser is a bootleg henshin device. Jin's character is (AFAIK) displayed in his fighting style rather than his suit, that as someone childish he'd flail around wildly without any finesse, but his psychotic nature is shown in him being a trickster and doing anything he can to get advantage.
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cosmicrescend0
-Grief is such a complicated thing. It hits differently for everyone, and similarly with how people cope. Because of this, I feel a bit awkward judging a character's actions during grief and how they process it. Beside the Obvious Dangerous Methods, it just feels terribly scummy to say "This character should've handled their grief in X or Y way!" because of that, yknow? Essentially comissioning a robot and turning them more or less into your daughter because you can't get over her death, it's......No words, really.
And on the opposite vein, there'd be also those who chastise people for criticizing those who use obviously dangerous methods to cope with grief, which practically IMO, seems to imply that grief gives someone free pass, and the more grief the better it is. I don't know if this'd be what you refered as obvious dangerous methods, but the ones who resort into shifting the blame to others, projecting their issues to others, or even doing actual villainy like making others suffer as much as them or killing/antagonizing any human due to nihilism or related reasons to cope with problems. Criticizing those can also be seen as not understanding what they've gone through, including when they'd say they feel sympathetic but disagree with their behavior (not straight away dislike those, or actually liking those). As if sympathy means to them as agreeing with them and let them have their way to achieve what they want.
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cosmicrescend0
-The ending for Seiji, ah....I say I dont like judging chars by how they react/cope with grief, but I wonder, is that solution really for the best? Only time will tell. At least, for now, Seiji can grieve without the threat of jailtime over his head.
-I'm not sure what kind of a future where we rely an AI for emotional support is like, or if I'd even want something like that, but surely if it's able to help even a handful of people, perhaps I wouldn't mind it.
I guess just like how Seiji copes with grief, Aruto's solution to give the AI support or AI emotional support in general also seems harmless so far, and also not being a problem like his way of coping with grief. CMIIW.
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