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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zero-One (and builds SO-DO)
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07-11-2022, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by
Androzani84
Onto this episode, all I can say is that the last scene got rewritten because Ohmori-P decided at the last minute that the show?s appeal was Aruto being president. Originally, it would?ve ended with Gai buying out the company and Aruto deciding to quit his job and walk off, with the VP taking one last moment to rub it in.
The only way that original ending would've worked is if it happens at the shareholders' meeting in the middle of the episode. Aruto only became president of Hiden to protect humanity and Humagears as Zero-One, and he thinks that necessity is gone now. Humagears are safe, and humanity doesn't have any reason to fear them. Total victory, and I can see him being okay losing the company after that.
Any other scene where he'd just quit? INSANE.
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Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
So, uh, how would you rank this compared to Super Movie War Genesis?
I never remember which of these movies is which, so I had to go look it up. Yeah, I don't remember liking that Ghost/Drive movie too much, but I think I like this one less? That movie was
stupid
, but this one felt like it fundamentally didn't understand the point of Zero-One, and didn't much care about the purpose of Zi-O. Bigger sins in Reiwa First Gen, to me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sh Ranger
You probably guessed this already, but my favorite scene in this episode was immediately after that climactic fight, where Aruto calmly picked up Flying Falcon from the ground. The lazer bird has returned to the nest!
Ha ha, I for sure thought Sh Ranger Must Be Happy when Aruto picks up that Progrise Key. I'm glad that story got some closure for you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Other than that though, you previously talked about the bad consequence of Fuwa's revenge, and now Fuwa actually felt it (other than how, Gai, the real source of his misery, has appeared), he questioned whether his whole quest for revenge was worth it, especially after seeing the defeated Horobi as nothing more than a hunk of metal.
I think it's also that the kind of vengeance Fuwa wants... it can't ever be obtained? He's dedicated his life to anger and violence, practically training himself to live off of only those two emotions. But then he thinks he's going to Get Revenge someday, and then he'll feel some catharsis, if not outright happiness. That can't ever work, though. The lifetime of Only Anger has left him without the capacity for relief, or happiness, or fulfillment. The end of this road for Fuwa can only be Death or More Anger, unless Fuwa starts doing some hard work on his value system.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kurona
I don't remember if this was already pointed out to you, but did you know that the Robot Sougo from Decade vs Zi-O is from this movie's timeline?
Makes sense! The headphones that Sougo wore in the Decade vs Zi-O special were a dead giveaway. It's that sort of attention to detail and insistence on making sure all relevant story information is included in the product instead of randomly on a website or tweet that makes me appreciate non-series Kamen Rider storytelling so much!
Quote:
Originally Posted by
DreamSword
But true to form, it's not the blind hatred and despair of Jin that wins the day, but the symbol of peace and unity in Aruto. Shining Assault Hopper serving as both the literal and symbolic union of not just Humans and Humagears, but of Aruto and Fuwa is just icing on the cake.
It's a great episode for Aruto (I love the mid-episode scene with him and Izu
so much
), and I like how bummed out he is when he has to finish off Jin. He never really got to know Jin, and now Aruto's realizing that he's going to have to execute some messed-up kid who's mad about his dad being dead, a kid who genuinely doesn't understand what it means to be in a robot death cult. It's a heroic victory that makes the hero feel like kind of an asshole, which is one of my favorite types.
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