TFW2005
Hisstank
Thundercats
TokuNation
Toyark
Home
News
Garo
Godzilla
Kamen Rider
Metal Heroes
Power Rangers
Super Sentai
Ultraman
All News Categories
Forum
News & Rumors
Power Rangers
Kamen Rider
Super Sentai
Other Toku Series
Toys and Collectables
Marketplace
Creative
Galleries
Companies
Bandai Japan
Tamashii Nations
Saban Brands
Bandai America
Toei
Characters
Kamen Rider Ghost
Kamen Rider Specter
Kamen Rider Necrom
Mighty Morphin Green Ranger
Dino Charge Red Ranger
Toylines
S.H. Figuarts
S.H. MonsterArts
DX Mecha
Megazords
Legacy
Shows
Kamen Rider Ghost
Doubutsu Sentai Zyuohger
Power Rangers Dino Supercharge
Power Rangers Movie 2017
TokuNation.com
>
TokuNation
Integration
User Name
Remember Me?
Password
Rules
Register
Community
Today's Posts
Search
Community Links
Members List
Search Forums
Show Threads
Show Posts
Advanced Search
Go to Page...
Thread
:
Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zero-One (and builds SO-DO)
View Single Post
07-26-2022, 09:09 AM
#
533
DreadBringer
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,537
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 26 - “WE’RE THE FIREFIGHTER TEAM”
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 27 - “I WILL NOT GIVE UP ON LIFE”
So you'd think that to endanger yourself and other victims to save them is a weird message, and I agree with that, but unfortunately it seems that, I don't know where it came from (it must be not from Zero-One as it's a relatively new show!), many people'd think yeah, to be heroic you have to endanger yourself, and in general you're only heroic when your action got stakes, and how heroic is measured by how big the stakes is. Any good deeds when much isn't at stake is dismissed, like daily good deeds (ofc, for KR, many'd only view heroism in fighting monsters as it can be dangerous, meanwhile I was also supporting your suggestion for Fuwa and Yua to make use of their superpowers to safely rescue others!).
And by that conclusion, for starters, yeah to those, you gotta take more risks or you're a selfish/cowardly bastard. Some also thought those who are recklessly acting and throwing away your life without thoughts are the more heroic ones (the most heroic ones are the one that sacrificed their lives, the problem is using this on those who mostly did bad stuff before but died by sacrifices) or "too heroic", even also coming into conclusion that heroism is inept and should be discouraged. When actually thinking and strategizing (not in underhanded way) makes them more effective at saving people and also doesn't make them less good. I didn't know if something you disagreed here is your first exposure on this, but this had happened often regarding audience talks. And yeah, doctors, firefighters, etc. can't save everyone because reality forbids it. There's a difference between the unlucky ones not receiving help due to them already taking care of someone else, to deliberately ignoring or harm the unlucky few to save though.
Other than that, like Sakuyo vs Rentaro before, this is one of the humans vs Humagears where there's less hostility too. Here, though Homura had dim views of Humagears at first, it wasn't out of spite, but out of caring for human lives and that they're more risky to be used to save humans as robots who are different. And he only argued with 119nosuke (of which the name means "Help from 119", and 119 is Japan's security number) out of their methods of saving lives, not out of petty reasons of being matched or such. And as soon as 119nosuke proved Homura wrong, he accepted Humagear's worth and sticked up for him later. As a robot, 119nosuke's worth is seen here in how he can lift a huge slab to clear a path for Homura and anyone, as he has superhuman strength. Regarding above lessons, there's seem to be role reversal later, or it's done for both to learn from each other, in how Homura points out to 119nosuke that firefighters have to have self-preservance too, but 119nosuke is the one who sacrificed his life here.
For context on Fuwa dropping a bucket of water on himself, he did it because he's about to rush into a burning building and deliberately soaking himself first can prevent burns (though still, henshin to KR is better...). That moment of Fuwa and Yua rushing into a building, it's meant as another moment of humanizing Yua as ZAIA member, that she's not into the company's practices, like her saving people from Jin's attack or genuinely caring for Fuwa. Though as others pointed out here, yeah it lacks meaning to not explain why she's still so devoted to ZAIA.
Other than Yua though, Gai displayed another cruelty here in how he forbids Yua from saving people in building, showed that he did good or bad things only to maintain his company image, him advocating fair-play before wasn't a redeeming trait by this, and he treats even Yua, he's a control freak on her by shutting her up for an opinion that doesn't match his views. And Gai's behavior is one of the common excuses for people to be an asshole, because people want to feel like what they say has worth (especially narcissists like Gai), and by uttering "nobody asked for your opinion" for disagreeable takes that they took offense to, by ignoring their feedback, he's telling her what she said doesn't matter, and therefore she doesn't matter, as a safety net, to protect him from criticism.
And lastly, regarding Jin and Horobi's interaction here, so, now does it show that Jin is still an invader to humanity here? He talked about how he can't let humans do what they want to Humagears, and he's excluding Aruto because he's the one who cared for Humagears, but unfortunately he got an example from Gai covering up the evidence of his corrupt activities by destroying the ZAIA Spec, giving him more reason to fight off humanity. He's still a villain, but of anti-villain kind, as now he genuinely cares about Humagears (redeeming trait), learning from Aruto.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Frontier
Yua deserves better than functionally being no better than a henchgirl. Like, at least someone like Marika was honest with herself about why she was doing it and the kind of person she was (not that following the strongest man in the room is a particularly empowering message) but Valkyrie was intended to be more of a hero than Marika was.
Neither are heroic anyways, at first at least for Marika. Marika was outright villainous, only gaining more ambiguity (either to anti-villain territory, or at best anti-hero when she's being good) after she joined Kaito. Yua though is an anti-villain (and her earlier scene had her morality being ambiguous instead of being straight up hero due to mystery) for her helping Gai, but still had consciences.
__________________
The most complete non-wiki encyclopedias for Kamen Rider series
(currently only found Ryuki and OOO's).
DreadBringer
View Public Profile
Send a private message to DreadBringer
Find More Posts by DreadBringer
TokuNation News & Rumors
Ultraman Live at American Dream - November 15-23, 2025
Kayou Hero Mobilization - Ultraman, Super Sentai and Kamen Rider figures
Power Rangers Ninja Steel Episodes on YouTube
Playmates MMPR Re-Ignition Thunder Megazord and Tigerzord on the way?
Ultraman Puzzle Shuwatch Mobile Game
More New Posts
Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #7- "Punish" Discussion
What are your favourite Kamen Rider Movies?
items for trade
No.1 Sentai Gozyuger Episode 35- "Transform! You Too Can Become Younger"
What are you watching? (Kamen Rider Edition)
S.H. Figuarts (Toku Related) Thread
Favourite Specials/Movies?
Ultraman Discussion Thread
I finished my first Sentai: Ohsama Sentai King-Ohger
Recent Purchases: 2025 Master Thread!
Current Poll
How Would You Rate This Episode?
Excellent!
Good
Average
OK
Poor...
»
View Poll Results
»
Comment On This Poll
»
This Poll Has 10 Replies
Search Forums
»
Advanced Search
All times are GMT -5. The time now is
12:32 PM
.
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Powered by
vBadvanced
CMPS