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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zero-One (and builds SO-DO)
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08-04-2022, 01:28 PM
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As Love-chan is not mentioned here, what I can say about that is, it's an example of miscommunication causing further problems. Keita lying to everyone about having a girlfriend who views Love-chan as a creep would of course, not have him or anyone else realize that Keita's not trying to become a pro tennis player that reaches Grand Slam. Love-chan's also a rare showing when someone can train others too hard and extreme, while not having the stereotypical tough and demanding personality, but he's too enthusiastic and had a single-minded focus. About the fight, there's a potential
human
bodycount in AIMS 2 officers Dewaga and Shida, with how there are spent bullet casings and one of their sunglasses on the ground.
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 33 - “ARE DREAMS REALLY THAT IMPORTANT?”
It’s not that she didn’t have a dream in the same ways that Fuwa didn’t have a dream. She wasn’t consumed by rage, unable to see beyond the horizon of her hatred. She was too pragmatic for that. She’s an engineer. She understands technology, and how it can assist humanity. But, like, assist humanity the way a traffic light does, or the way an electric toothbrush does. She creates technology that makes human beings safer, or more productive. That’s it. She doesn’t make technology that emotionally or psychologically enriches human lives, because that’s unquantifiable. She follows the data, and works to make things more efficient. Humagears were dangerous, so they needed to be stopped. ZAIA Specs were safer, so it was only right for her to support Gai’s takeover. The world is a place with cause and effect, but everyone she fought was arguing for unverifiable phenomena; for wishes instead of results. She was never a
villain
, she just couldn’t understand the value of fighting for a dream.
Well certainly not now, she resigned from ZAIA and thus she's now turning into the show's secondary heroine. But previously, one isn't necessarily above villain status if they aren't fully bad, aren't full-on moustache twriling types, or such. She was an anti-villain, she's doing ZAIA's dirty works, but there are redeeming qualities in her about her good intentions, or concern of casualities, drawing the line at certain methods (her hesitations, but she's still loyal to them). Humagears was mainly dangerous only because of Gai's work of corrupting Ark, and ZAIA Specs was advertised as something safer after making Humagears a threat via Ark, it's purely Gai taking down his competitors, profiting of his deeds to make public doubt Humagears and escaping trouble from that. I don't know if for this one you overlooked the reason of Humagears going rogue (which Fuwa already acknowledged), or that it's more about Yua making decisions based on what already happened (Humagears already turned dangerous).
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So Yua probably found the last dozen episodes as frustrating as we did, with everyone around her agitating for a response she couldn't give. Everyone’s shouting at her about
dreams
, and that’s not her. They’re decrying tools, but tools serve a reliable purpose. Tools are
dependable
, while dreams aren’t. Fuwa and Aruto kept pushing her to define herself by their terms, by their metrics. She couldn’t care less if people are sad about their robot friends not being around, because sometimes that’s the price of progress. Better solutions inevitably disadvantage the opposition, and folks will cry about that. It doesn’t make it any less important to make technology safer for the public. And that’s been the one constant for Yua since the first episode: technology should always make the public safer.
Treating living beings as a tool is something terrible though, seen in what Gai does, not only to Humagears (e.g. Naki), but also to humans, seen in how he treats Fuwa and Yua as disposable in ep. 29, and that view has rubbed on Yua but only to Humagears in her case. Though Humagears are androids, there are complexities in them particularly for those which reached Singularity, which at least it's something Yua acknowledged. Otherwise, Yua's treatment of them before, albeit subtler than Fuwa, can be also a form of racism towards Humagears (Gai's a far worse form of this), many fictions often the line between the values of human vs. non-human life getting blurry, automatically placing less value on something less human-like physically and psychologically (like slaughters of non-humans are generally more ok), and Yua's an example of that in her previous Humagear view. Seems to take effect too that cruelty seems to be far more noticeable to people when, it's displayed that someone treats humans as tools instead of something else. There's a hypocrisy too that, to vehemently treat Humagears as tools, Yua herself is also a tool to Gai despite her denial.
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We’ve been wondering for a while what would be the straw that broke Yua’s dedication to ZAIA and Gai, and it’s the most obvious thing in the world. When she sees that Gai is using technology to make people less safe – to actively harm someone like Fuwa – she’s had enough. It’s not about the theories or the possibilities or the dreams. It’s about seeing her technology be used to hurt people, right in front of her, and saying No. Gai’s done a million shitty things, but they could all be couched in the idea of a safer, more productive humanity. With the reveal that he’d psychologically tortured Fuwa just to make him into a weapon, Yua’s seen enough. There’s no alignment between her worldview and ZAIA. She can’t continue to work under someone who fundamentally doesn’t care about who his technology harms, since it’s the biggest thing she cares about.
It's something consistent regarding Yua before, generally whenever Fuwa is injured or hurt, she becomes noticeably worried. His first fight against Horobi, his subsequent hospital stay (and the threat to his life when the medical Humagears were all shut down), and his first uses of the Assault Wolf Progrise Key all put her in a noticeable state of visible concern and distress; she even forced him out of a transformation once when it became clear his body couldn't take the strain. Other than that though, this is further a turning point for Fuwa, after previously changing his target of vengeance to ZAIA, now here, he further clarifies that his vengeance against Humagears is over, and now he truly gained Kamen Rider sensibility, becoming more heroic and trying his best at making use of Kamen Rider. Fuwa officially has shed most of his negative traits here, here's the time Zero-One ditches the edgy secondary archetype, though Fuwa's still has some temper issues. But still, while Fuwa wasn't villainous, it was still Gai irresponsibly causing trouble for others especially Humagears via someone else, showing more of his rotten side.
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