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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

I guess I was also refering about how Daiji's someone the most uptight and professional among the family, and that his conflict with Ikki at ep. 4 was about Ikki's lack of professionalism in being a Kamen Rider, or him being stern against for anyone who screws up at ep. 24, for what I think is the "order" part, while Kagerou's definitely wanna do whatever pleases him. But anyway I talked about both the good-evil and law-chaos axis (the force of good being too hardcore part).

Daiji became a FENIX captain to escape from Ikki's shadow, so I imagine he started to feel obliged to continue with FENIX, a desire to believe in his path no matter what, rather than admit an uncomfortable truth about himself. He tried to inherit Yukimi's wisdom and be the purely logical responsible one to his busybody egoist and angsty teen siblings, but that drove him too far in the opposite direction, not helped by the temporary loss of Kagerou to call him out on his hypocrisy. The Igarashi siblings look normal on the surface but they're all pretty screwed up in different ways.

There are several things in the subtext that could explain Daiji's turn, but I personally don't feel like the symbolism is a perfect match here. Sure, angels can also be problematic, such as the evil Angel Roidmude, but going as far as siding with devils seems weirdly contrary to what an angel is supposed to represent, even if everything else about Daiji's poor decisions kind of make sense. But that's not exactly a problem with the plot, just how I feel about the convoluted implication of what Holy Live represents for the character.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

But which part were you talking about here? Episode 39? Then yeah that's also after George seemingly shed his Masumi demon long ago (which was probably ep. 25, the time his behavior changed) and his vow to help Hiromi at ep. 29. I refer to how the devil transplant's behavior that damaged Hiromi's body wasn't George caring about Hiromi deep down (or Hiromi at that time after realizing what he's up to), as even in that ep. 39 George also apologized for that.

I was referring to the first punch in Episode 21, before George's behavior visibly changed. Even with Masumi's devil warping his personality, George was capable of at least a small amount of empathy, otherwise he wouldn't have given Hiromi the opportunity. Another example is Episode 18, where he expressed concern for Ikki, who was losing himself to his ego after failing to save people from being Giftarian lunch. George actually gave him some important wisdom to help him get better.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Sorry for the following but, why'd he gain some justification when, being trapped in a slimy cocoon is a karmic fate after sacrificing so many to Giff (yeah he has been there for time being, but people with crime on that scale or even lower would be held for much longer)?

I guess being trapped in that cocoon was better than him being dead like we thought, but being assaulted without provocation immediately after his release was a little excessive, considering how they put him in a new prison anyway. It was just a petty (and humorous) insult though and he didn't even resist arrest. Hardly on the same level of depravity as the more serious offences he's committed, like breaking his promise to Aguilera.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

And to be honest, I'm kinda sick of that "tsundere" excuse (this trope is actually often used and played in toxic manner, like if it's used on females). By this, then what is the real example of someone genuinely acting malicious and to distinguish those from the "tsundere" ones? Because this type of excuse, can be used on anything, like I've found those who invoke "tsundere" stuff in murderers as in "killing everyone means giving them their own freedom" to make up something "good" ("dere") in them, and that's in someone who did bad things for fun, not the self-righteous ones. Seems like "tsundere" excuses like this abuses the "inherent goodness of human nature" (as "dere" part) to not hold someone or their actions accountable.

I'd say Banno is an example of genuinely malicious, since he only pretended to care about his kids so he could manipulate them as means for his goal of world domination. Same goes for Asakura using Mika as bait. Whereas tsundere villains like Evolt and Olteca are still pretty toxic and destructive, but they have more emotional motivations for their actions, like how Olteca probably killed Yosuke to get a rise out of Tamaki. To clarify, I'm not using the tsundere label to condone his behavior, only as an attempt to explain it.