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Kamen Rider Geats Episode 9- "Chance Meeting F! Wake Up Monster" Discussion
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11-01-2022, 10:53 AM
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DreadBringer
Seems that as someone else said elsewhere, with no Keiwa, his thing spreads to the remaining Rider, with Ace completing a secret mission to find Boost, Neon being the voiceover, and Michinaga displaying reckless courage that got Keiwa retired earlier. True that Ace seems to learn something here, to face some hardship after everything's been easy to him before, but like before, I wouldn't think determination (either courage or recklessness) as something moral by itself, courage can apply to any aim, whenever it's good, questionable, or bad. Ace giving compliment and encouraging advice was something he did to Keiwa too before, and him being sincere or not was literally questioned there, which Ace didn't fully deny when asked that by Keiwa. Though I agree that their rivalry seems to proceed a bit, but then again...
I was using moral as a synonym for lesson or aesop, which can be anything beneficial to a person's life. Ace learned more than determination though, he learned to have empathy for people who have to be determined to get what they want. Victory came so easily for him before that he started taking it for granted, extending to his rival's losses, so he suggests for them to quit while they still have their lives and forget their problems as the best case scenario, thinking he's being helpful. Here, he's forced to test his own advice on himself and learns by watching Michinaga that there is no best case scenario where you're left unhappy with your life and that fighting against odds is virtue, not stupidity.
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DreadBringer
I don't know if the DGP would have the memories of the finalist retained or not, Michinaga is Ace's consistent rival, but it can all stem from only their encounter in Toru's death in each DGP iteration, instead of their previous DGP feud (that got erased each time Ace wins, but not for Toru's death). If so, then Ace's advice wouldn't be helpful to Neon... or even her current development so far with it getting erased.
Basically what Mesnick said. Neon and Michinaga would've forgotten everything about the DGP when the world was reset, but as the reward for surviving until the end, Tsumuri will invite them back as veterans and they'll remember by touching their ID Cores, including their interactions with Ace.
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I'd like to see her capabilities outside of being Rider though outside of last can kicking, but this episode only showed Ace's. Though dunno about her sudden burst of fighting ability in ep. 4, regardless of mentality, as she's a newcomer without fighting background and, there are those who complained about the primary Rider with no fighting background "suddenly" becoming good in their Rider debut.
Maybe she has acquired good dexterity and leg strength for the purpose of evading John and Ben when she streams her escape attempts. That seems like it would be a useful skill in combat as well.
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IndigoArms
It's weird, I heavily applaud the show for being unique in it's setting, I'm just scared with its structure, with it being random games, then the final round with Ace winning, starting the whole thing again. I hope they introduce something to the show without it going stale.
I imagine the reason why this story is happening at this point in Ace's long life of success is that one of these games we're watching is going to be the one where he finally fails. He pretty much admitted to Neon and Michinaga that they have the potential to win as long as they keep playing and I have a feeling it might even be the next DGP starting next fortnight. The show is probably taking the time to establish the status quo with Ace as the perpetual God of Desire before throwing a plot twist where someone else claims the title.
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zenstrive
Why can't they have Keiwa again in the next iteration?
Tsumuri essentially gave him a DNF for his own welfare, so he lost his qualifications as a Rider. He'll need to get his qualifications renewed somehow, if he wants to play another game.
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