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Kamen Rider Die watches Kamen Rider Zero-One (and builds SO-DO)
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11-06-2022, 05:39 PM
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Sh Ranger
Like, after a show full of deep debates about the meaning of humanity and how HumaGears have a place in that, suddenly it's just nanobots and this dude called S who's way less vital to the overarching plot than the finale's post-credits made him out to be. He's not even as interesting as Kabuki.
I guess this is a Your Mileage May Vary sort of sitchiation, where to me S came off as a sympathetic-villain version of most of Zero-One's larger themes: partnership, the role of technology in grief, how best to resolve guilt, etc. If it lacked greater integration into Zero-One's
narrative
, I think it still managed to feel thoroughly in line with what the show's always been talking about.
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Androzani84
I also wasn?t keen on the Is revival, since it cheapened her whole death. And I don?t see why they had to reshoot the movie to be post-series, given that Gaim and Drove both had post-show movies set during the series (and Kyoryuger had a whole episode made 4 years after it ended, also set between episodes). Especially since the sacrifice was the one thing you complained the movie was missing: screen time for Naki and Ikazuchi.
I like stories like these more as post-show content, honestly. The idea of Oh This Massive Villain Happened Between Episodes (and with enough weirdly contradictory elements to feel non-canonical) is usually a step down for me. It can be fun on a thematic or entertainment level, but spending mental energy trying to square the events of the movie with the events of the show... less fun!
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DreadBringer
Though In the series iirc, Naki was later revealed to be the Humagear entity that resides within Fuwa, but here Naki already existed as a co-worker for both villainous sides.
I don't know if the series ever stated how Naki operated prior to being implanted in Fuwa, so there's really nothing here that outright contradicts the show. It's sort of ridiculous, but it's not a plot hole.
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DreadBringer
But yeah, I'd also think this is one of the better KR movies, but there are glaring flaws like, I don't like Izu being returned just by the old Izu memories happening to be in Zea. I know that Humagears can be rebuilt but, this is just cheap solution to get the audience familiar instead of exploring the different Izu.
Yeah, this one... it's really hard to support the return of Classic Izu in any way other than saying It Felt Good. We were specifically told that Izu's sacrifice was irrevocable -
that's what makes the last few episodes mean anything
. To have that undone with no explanation whatsoever is kind of weak. It's not the best!
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Enchilada645
Somehow I had glanced over my favorite usage of Metal Cluster Hopper and didn't even mention it! I thought it was pretty smart for Aruto to go for (admittedly he had no choice) a weaker form via Metal Cluster and use its swarm ability to "infect" Eden and slowly wear him down by having the swarm just chew and mess with the nanomachines by mixing with them.
It's really great when these big movies can remember old forms, and use them tactically. The whole Punching Kong bit is the producers realizing that Fuwa can fight a jet if he's got super-strength, so here you go. Smart!
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DreamSword
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