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Kamen Rider Geats Episode 14- "Conspiracy V- Glare Of Anger!" Discussion
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12-16-2022, 03:50 PM
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Damn, after all my predictions last week, I totally wasn't expecting Ace to lose his plot armor so suddenly. Geats didn't even appear in this episode. However, it looks like one of his desires, "to play DGP until I die", will allow him to stick around and have a limited effect on the finale, since he technically didn't die in the conventional sense. Maybe he can appeal to get back his qualifications by calling out Glare's very obvious rigging, just in time to defeat the final boss.
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Anyway, Gamemaster is kind of a dumbass. So he tells Win that he'll restore him should he be defeated, then he places PunkJack in a situation where he'll be erased, then double crosses him and tells him the only way he won't get erased and have his memory wiped is if he becomes the god of desire, meaning he has to win the DGP.
And then he's surprised that the person he's double crossing opts to not follow him anymore? When Gamemaster stated once again that PunkJack's mission was to eliminate Ace, I was expecting him to retort that he
can't
eliminate Ace if Gamemaster was about to let him die.
Yeah, for a guy running a competition about desires, Giroli totally failed to anticipate how betraying Win and leaving him in an unwinnable position might make him a little disinclined to keep following orders. And then there's the rule of the week that the game master isn't allowed to interfere with the result, immediately after he interferes with the result, so I think this is going to bite him pretty quickly.
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Matrixbeast
Also, the timeline is a little odd. The DGP's games tend to last little longer than a few weeks, if even that long. If Ace has been winning since 1 AD, then what the hell were his wishes? We know he wanted to participate in the games forever, that he was the star among stars among stars, and that the DGP staff was his family, all in an attempt to learn more of his mother, but that still leaves an innumerable amount of wishes he's achieved.
I doubt the DGPs were always that consistently short. The first DGP lasted 6 whole months, which makes me think that the seasons decrease in length in adverse proportion to the growing strength of the Jyamatos. The fact that how only 5 players passed the pirate round was considered an abnormal result supports this, as more eliminations per round means less rounds until the final boss. Who knows how long they lasted in the previous 2000 years?
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Layton13
First of all, we only know for certain that Geats won like 5-6 games, since that are the cards we actually saw.
Second, it is not at all confirmed Geats is actually 2000 years old, since the only information on that we have gotten is from Ace and we all know how unreliable he can be.
People really shouldn't just assume those theories are 100% canon, or they may be surprised in the long run.
Even presuming Ace is telling the truth about playing since 1 AD, he could've written a desire to travel to the future, so he wouldn't necessarily have lived for all those years. The official KR site does state his age as 21 after all.
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DreadBringer
Overall yeah, Win is Michinaga 2.0, both are Ace's rivals who can never measure up to him, but Win is more on the trickery side rather than Michinaga's fighting or gaming. Every single of Win's schemes got foiled, from the toilet excuse which had Ace dominating Jamatos to here where he purposely manipulates the events that got him the info he needed. Win obviously only gives information to Ace after Girori backstabbed him, so I guess Ace also made a right guess about Win having a hard time serving under the GM, and thus Ace also expected the GM to think Ace is eliminated, and then backstab Win, leaving Win more open to help Ace. This also reveals that Win is the total opposite of having blind loyalty to GM, actually he's purely mercenary type to only do the job when he can get something to gain, his memories in this case.
The other main difference is that Michinaga has a personal beef (haha, get it?) with Ace, while Win is just doing a job that his grandfather offered him due to his lack of success as a musician. I liked seeing Win open up and show his sympathetic side here, with the flashback revealing that his punk rocker style isn't merely a persona to hide his affiliation with staff, but rather a symbol of the dream he gave up on, something that Ace helps him to find once more. Just like him, he also got his revelation by falling to the bottom, that he can also make his desire come true if he seriously plays the game like the others.
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My problem this week was that Buffa should have killed the final jamato. Keiwa killing it before confirming Geats had obtained the driver and was safe, well, it just makes Keiwa look stupid, right?
For sure.
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