[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I definitely don't think Ogami and Daishinji are stirring shit here. Ogami is the main voice of reason before the fight starts, and he's just trying to disarm Touma so things can get discussed safely. Ogami and Daishinji missed two of their friends going off the deep end and endangering others, and are not keen for a repeat.

I know it can be rooted from the past betrayals, but O've mentioned my point of where my problem is that there's something lacking of what's shown during Hayato or Kamijo's time with them, when they're together with those 2 like how they were as a person (other than Kamijo in flashback displaying determination) and if they were strikingly similar to Touma or not, or that they're more like just another member of the Sword of Logos, or even worse..... something like Ren.