[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

There's also Keiwa's self-righteous guilting behavior in Episode 8, where he expected Neon to put saving Sara over her desire for true love, which Ace and Michinaga were quick to call out. Neon already received similar guilting from Irumi after all. However, since his epic speech to Giroli in Episode 16, I think Keiwa has learned to accept people's right to choose what they will risk their lives for, no more trying to choose it for them. But that's an impersonal statement, directed at all DGP participants, not only Neon.

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Originally Posted by Annuga

Ok but like. Sara was gonna die if shit hit the fan. As in, the only family Keiwa really has left. Call me biased but as someone with a similar lack of family, I think it's a bit unfair to be harsher on Keiwa here than y'know, Kyuun the internet stalker who choses to be a dick in person.

Surely, it's about how Keiwa is inconsiderate to other's wish because he views them as too "small" or "selfish" compared to him using it for the world, and by that he thinks that it's ok to use the players as stepping stones to claim his own wish because he'd think wishes like those are insignificant to be lost.

But I'd defend the other Riders further, as this can still have some people insist that Keiwa is in the right and the others are scumbags for rejecting his plan, and anyone else must give in the game for actually significant wish like his... (as if you can't disagree with Keiwa or you're wrong for doing so, because everything he does is right by default, for him being the boy scout, and I don't like it if Keiwa's viewed as the only one who gives a shit about civilians). Keiwa's strategy sounds as if the other players act as a bait for Keiwa himself to kick the can and subsequently win the game.

Rejecting Keiwa's strategy doesn't mean neglecting the civilians, because for this case, the boss holds the civilians including Sara hostage, and they're going to fight the boss anyway. Keiwa later just went with the "quick" way of destroying the plant, instead of a harder one of taking down the whole boss. They could've found another way to defeat the boss (and saving the civilians in the process) without Keiwa's whole plan - of which somehow got missed completely, and of course the players have a right to choose what strategies they see fit (but I won't tolerate the strategies that involved being cruel to others regardless of "competitive game" excuse), instead of being reduced to "NPCs"/"supports"/"baits" via Keiwa's plan.