[Kamen Rider Die]

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Originally Posted by barnstenchfartface

I think the actual substance of the mystery (who and what and why) isn't important at this point, but more the general fact that whatever it is, Vice seems to get what's going on, but is keeping it a secret--and it's something Vice at his most immoral found humorous, so it's probably not a good secret. So while Ikki is putting more trust in him, we know he's being kept in the dark about stuff...it makes for a sort of shaky foundation for a "trusting" relationship.

For me, Vice does so much fourth wall-breaking stuff that I never know if I'm supposed to take those reactions as I Have A Secret or just What Wacky Thing Is Going To Happen Next On "Kamen Rider Revice"? Vice is genre-savvy enough that I never quite take it as him being ahead of the game on the series arc.

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Originally Posted by Androzani84

A.so I love that Revice are randomly fighting the Planarian Deadman in the beginning. Especially since the dude giving out those Vistamps isn?t anywhere else in the movie.

Ha ha, yeah, they have about zero problems taking out a monster that they needed Live to finish off just a couple weeks prior, huh? And thanks for the fun skit!

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Originally Posted by Layton13

That said, I don't have a problem with the former Shocker scientist becoming a Rider.

Wouldn't be the first time since Riderman has pretty much the same backstory, and the only reason he started fighting the evil organization he was from, Destron, was because he wanted to take revenge on the guy who had betrayed him.

So, in general, no problem with the plot in general they just screwed it up.

Well, I didn't know the Riderman similarities, but I still found the emotional core of the film to be not exactly to my liking. It's two dudes I didn't connect with, having an argument about a thing I didn't enjoy.

But, really, that wouldn't even have been as much of a problem if it felt like there was a reason this story needed the casts of both Saber and Revice to tell it.

This one wasn't for me!

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Yeah, honestly the movies are unappealing for me. Ofc it's just a trope and it by itself isn't bad, but crossovers are often just done as a fanservice (and for Toei, more toys) to get some franchises mixing up. I felt the need to watch it to not missing out on some spoilers happening to characters when reading up info (only done it when you did too so that I can leave comments), and ofc you have the need to cover everything about the current series you're watching.

This one, thankfully, didn't seem to have a lot that impacted either show? We get yet another tease of Rintaro confessing his feelings to Mei (who, as always, is miles ahead of him) and that's all I could see as far as series-relevant details? It's fairly contained, as far as storytelling is concerned.