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Kamen Rider Geats Episode 34- "Yearning II: Geats Aim Of Attack!" Discussion
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My guess is that, based on previous episode, Neon may be willing to depart to the future and live with the people she feels belong in, finally finding her place. By that, Neon will part away from the current world, thus there'd be no more content for her fans which is a part of that world, and that obviously drove Sara crazy in ep. 31. She has been introduced as someone who'd want to leave her wealth and good looks behind and "become ordinary person", and feels it's done now, but doesn't mean that she'd let her fans left hanging, despairing over no more of her contents forever.
Isn't it better to brave despair than to live without hope? Even if Neon dropped off the face of the planet, her fans may despair, but they would eventually move on and they would still be able to live gratefully for the fond memories of the content that inspired them to become better people. Like you said, what Neon wants to do is functionally the same as what Kousei did to Irumi, despite the difference in motivation. She wants to spare her fans, but she hasn't really thought about what they want. Her fans are actively invested in Neon trying to make a better life for herself, so I think Neon is seriously underestimating how much they care about her. She's not just a content creator to them and if they were watching the Desire Royale, they'd be screaming at her to make her realize that.
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I know that you already have pet peeves over keeping the past alive, and perhaps this'd also extend to Keiwa's wish. But honestly, what's so wrong for people to try fixing things, if they can? Like for example, if someone has a broken toy or electronic gadgets, they can try to repair them, not that they should instantly discard them or such. Of course, there are those that you can't get back, like for real life, people dying, and it's good to learn to move on. But in supernatural world, death can be undone, and thus I'd think it's ok for someone to pull that in a world with more options than real one instead of just moving on. I think I'd rather if they'd work to fix the unfair system granted by the DGP (including saving Mitsume), making happiness an exclusive concept for the few, but ends up allowing more people to be happy together.
What Mesnick said. There are way too many downsides to Keiwa's desire. The world's population would become bloated. DGP would continue to endanger lives and deprive the losers of their desires. Sueru would have management back under control, allowing him to undo all of Ace's work and probably turn Tsumuri in to another obedient statue for good measure. DGP's influence in the timeline is so vast that it's basically impossible to undo all the harm to their victims and even trying would enable them to take more victims. Instead of trying to save those who have already died, Keiwa should focus on stopping DGP from doing it to anybody else. That's the closest thing to world peace he's ever going to get.
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While they need to, I hope that you won't condemn them for this (or other Riders just for joining the DGP and indirectly advancing the DGP's system). But characters can know less than the real life audiences and shape their decisionI mean like, there's SoL and Fenix in 2 previous Reiwa series that has even the good people joining there unwittingly advancing a villain's plan. At that time, what they're already vehemently against is JGP (which Michinaga joined), with clear terrible consequences that they're invading people, but they'd agree to make the DGP fair and square (outing Girori, and what Keiwa said to Ace after the 3v1) as it seems to be more of a "neutral game of volunteers" - they're so secretive ofc. And for Keiwa, from what he currently knows about Mitsume (likely from lies), she's on the same park as people like Niram or Chirami, another one who perpetuates the DGP and the world, instead of someone being used as a tool.
No, I won't condemn them or anything like that. I won't support them either, but I still respect their right to fight and risk their lives for their desires. Ace is kind of in a similar position to Shinji here, where he's fighting to stop the DGP, but he knows it's wrong to begrudge others for fighting to perpetuate it. After all, Ace's desire isn't entirely selfless, he's trying to save his mother, so it's personal for him. The only ones I will condemn here are the DGP management for creating the stage for this conflict. Neon and Keiwa are misguided, but they are also victims of DGP who want justice, like Ace and Michinaga.
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