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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

I don't... think that's what Ikki's trying to say? Ikki's not declaring Vice's (or his own) heroic attributes, he's denying Olteca's use of a delineation between Ikki and Vice. It's an episode about countering Giff's control with a bond that's bigger than Giff's role in their origins; it's Ikki removing both himself and Vice from Giff's claim over their fates by stating that Revice is more important than the people who make up Revice.

At least, that was my take on it?

Maybe that was the intention, rejecting arbitrary toxic definitions, like Takumi sparing Kiba since he doesn't kill "humans", but the way Ikki phrases his line sounds misleading to me when he could've said something that accepts both of those traits while also establishing that hierarchy between them, like, "We may be devils, but even so, we're still Revice!"

Reminds me of what Layton mentioned about the "I admit my weaknesses, therefore I'm invincible" line. I think these characters are trying too hard to sound profound and they just end up sounding weird and contradicting themselves instead. They sure aren't on the level of epic speech masters like Takumi and Touma.