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Kamen Rider Geats Episode 47- "Creation IX: A True Kamen Rider!" Discussion
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08-14-2023, 03:13 PM
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MKDremare
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PortalTron
I know this is a little late as the reset happened before this episode, but what was the point of Keiwa's wish to revive those who died in the DGP? Sure, we got a few new Riders and the re-death of Keiwa's parents, but literally
every
Rider that had some significance around their death was nowhere to be found. Shirowe, Ginpen, Letter, and even Michinaga's friend (who's death by the way, was literally the entire basis for Michinaga's motivations), literally are not even mentioned.
Keiwa's wish wasn't really something he fully desired, to be honest. What he really wanted was a safe and happy world with his sister, which is what Ace even questioned him about early on in the season. He only clung onto that wish because he never actually had any clearly stated goals before, and he just focused in on that by putting a lot of value into it for himself. When she died, he only clung onto the wish even harder.
Michinaga never going to find his friend more or less has to do with the fact that he's always accepted that Tohru was gone. He moved on from the past, and only sought to stop the DGP from continuing to trample on other people. It would've been a bad regression of his character if he went and searched for Tohru.
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PortalTron
Seriously, this arc was a bit of the breaking point for me in the show. Why would a bunch of gangsters immediately attack and kill someone after being revived? Like, even if they were revived with memories of what happened in the DGP up until that point, there was literally no reason for them to attack anyone yet as the DGP specifically had rules about attacking anything other than a Jyamato. Even weirder is how they would have had the means to attack anyone, as they would be regular people without belts. Except, if they were brought back
with
their belts, wouldn't literally every other Rider who died have them as well?
They clearly pointed out that Jitt/Zitt was the Game Master of Bad Ends, and hinted that he had a hand in making Keiwa's wish go the way that it did. It was a wish that, while more specific than his first wish of world peace, was still vague enough that they could maneuver around it to make it work to their advantage. And it isn't like the DGP isn't necessarily above changing and adding rules, too.
So they could've easily made it so that the wish gave only the criminal and more antagonistic DGP Riders their memories and gear back, and the DGP could've just told them that they could've gone on a riot with what they got (and heck, Beroba had to go out of her way to give Kanato his gear back, so it wasn't instant for all of them). And that any of the more law-abiding DGP Riders were just not given back their memories or gear. Like I'm pretty sure that resurrected Sara before she died referred to Turbon as a "guy in a weird mask" rather than a "Kamen Rider", so she wasn't brought back with her memories.
As for meta reasons as to why we don't see previous other Riders from earlier coming back. Simply scheduling issues, the fact that they've retooled helmets pretty heavily (especially the Mary helmet), and just the fact that it would just be too many actors to bring back. Hell, I didn't even think they were going to bring back Kanato/Da-Paan until they did.
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Mesnick
I wrote about this in another thread: the time limit and the desire to set a record for the number of riders in the franchise (and keep it as long as possible). If anything, this is not an excuse, but an explanation.
It seems to me that Takahashi finally decided to test the boundaries of what was permitted in order to make a note to himself for the future. Geats is a popular show and it is unlikely that the absurdities in the ending will greatly change the opinion of the audience, who idolized it for a whole year. And the screenwriter will know what stupid things will be forgiven him, and for which he will be scolded.
That seems like an awfully negative light to cast on Takahashi. Like I could say the same thing about Inoue and his writing. Like this is just kind of an unnecessary jab at his character. Like I don't like Inoue's writing (and if I'm honest, Donbrothers is in the same boat as Geats as being idolized for a whole year), but I don't feel like I need to jab it at it like this.
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