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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

It's not really this episode's fault, I still really enjoyed it, nice to have Girori back to show he really does believe in his own weird version of fighting for world peace (Takahashi really can't help but redeem people, can he?), but it's odd to have the final battle be a 2-episode rush.

Girori is the opposite of many future people recently presented where he wants a story with good ending, like Archimedel wanting the Jamatos to fight back against humans, Beroba wanting to plunge the world into despair, Zitt wanting to give bad endings by screwing people over, or VIPs wanting pure sadist show. But like others though, Girori's still another part of providing entertainment and treating the current populace as something to watch for the audiences, in his case is, kinda like Kekera, to highlight the "heroism" of the Riders (players) by Girori and the DGP attacking the people with Jamato they create so that the Riders can arrive to "save" them. His kind of entertainment is the good ol' "good guys always win". Here he also wants to return the DGP to be like that which means continuing the DGP, that is at odds with the main cast who wants to end it. So no, not a redemption case, just common enemy.

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Originally Posted by Androzani84

The fact that the only people complaining about the show seem to be people like you and Mesnick who make it their mission to complain about the show, I have no idea where you?re getting this opinion. Geats in general has received more positive praise than negative.

There's also at least Fredbob and Switchblade for this place. I don't think that places like TV-Nihon forums or Kaskus (my country personal forum) like this series either. And... would you yourself be really different in how you see Ryuki? And also there's how Sh Ranger views Gaim, DreamSword views Build, etc.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it.

Yeah, an opinion is an opinion, and one can't argue that someone doesn't hold an opinion that they say they do. They think whatever they think. One can argue that an opinion is illogical, misguided, or misinformed though. There's also a point when one've stepped over the line of having an opinion to outright lies, when one is denial over outright facts (though overzealous people do often present their opinions as facts):

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Plus, seriously, why stand up for Sueru? I am sure that even the one for whom Geats first and only watched the show about riders will not call him his favorite villain.

I guess I think there's some intrigue of how it's a criticism of entertainment media. As powerful as Suel is, he still answers to those who are merely just watches. The director, producer, and all other team can bicker and maneuver all they like or turn on each other, but losing your audience? You're done. Of course though, the VIP's tastes are what leads Suel to become a threat for the world and the cast.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Honestly, the overarching main villains of Reiwa Rider are all pretty bad so far. Ark, Gif and Suel are virtually impossible to relate to and while Isaac can be entertaining, he's not interesting at all. The last time I truly enjoyed a main villain was Evolt.

Posting in Die's threads, it seems that in general many main villains of most Rider series (at least both phases of Heisei until now) are all pretty bad. People like Shiro (though I personally got more into his character thanks to akinoame's analysis), Tennoji, Masato Mishima, Kai (though Die loves him), King, Adel (for many people), Swartz, etc. Those who get fan approval are those that aren't in main like Ouja, Heart, Kuroto, Vail, Beroba, etc. There's also the brief final bosses like Arch Orphnoch, Sigma, Gamedeus, Giff, and I guess Suel kinda acts like this too. It's a shame though while I think Geats can break some of the things that I think are mediocre in many, like for example plot mysteries (I also think that Build stands out in this - both Build and Geats are among most fast-paced KR show IMO though), female Rider, fight choreography, it doesn't apply for the main villain too.....

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Yeah, I'm not really feeling it either. Even Geats' big comeback last week was overshadowed by the big conclusion to Keiwa's arc. While Ace has continued to be a critical part of the plot, his character development hasn't really gone anywhere in this arc and the trailer for next week looks focused on everybody else once more. Way too much happening, way too fast. At least, nobody's screaming, "oh no, Ace is losing his memories!", so it could be worse.

I felt that Ace's character development has been complete, since ep. 38 of his reunion with Mitsume. getting an answer of why he's reincarnating, and getting a new calling of life based on that reunion and the reveal of his powers, of creating a world where everyone is happy. Now Ace is just the cornerstone among the good guys who shapes those around him and affect them. Keiwa's conclusion did come from him following Ace's teachings over Kekera's after all.

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Originally Posted by AkibaSilver

So I disagree with most everything you've posted, but because most of it is you hating what you think the themes of Geats are, fine, subjective interpretation, even if you do seem to have not paid attention to half of the premise of the DGP. But I will push back on just insulting the writers and claiming they're drunk on their own bullshit of whatever. You not personally liking a show doesn't mean the showrunners are idiots high off their own fumes or whatever, especially when the themes of Geats feel pretty self-explanatory imo. Whether or not people are inherently selfish, in a society that pits people against each other for entertainment or profit, or whether or not we can come together idealistically and work for a common good. This last episode is just that reiterated again, except even more obviously.

You hate it, fine. But you can criticise something without insinuating the writers are idiots or that everyone hates it, neither of which are true. And Geats definitely isn't an "empty husk" if you think about the themes for even a second.

Yeah this. Those who dislike something should also realize that it's their own opinion, and not that they're the only ones who are enlightened with everyone else, like the writers or showrunners, being insulted for not being like them or their tastes. Hating seems to be often used as a form of superiority complex, tbh, with declaring "I hate [x]" as "I'm superior and above [x]" in disguise. Like for those who hate a show and mock everyone who like it as sheeps or such. Honestly yeah, I'd like if hating isn't really revered as being rational on internet - it often happens that among opinions, liking something is looked down upon, but hating something is praised upon.