[Mesnick]

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Honestly, I think the real sacred cows (AFAIK) of the franchise are only, the trio golden era of W, OOO, and Fourze.

Oh, I can find a lot of negative comments about them. These shows were widely criticized by fans of the darker shows of the 2000s for their stupidity, loud jingles, ever-increasing number of toys, low stakes and turning into Sentai. Plus, regarding W, only the lazy didn`t criticize the ending with Phillip`s resurrection.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

And I thought for these 2, Revice was already like that too, as something that is light-hearted (outside of bodycounts produced by Orteca), and by that it feels Kamen Rider.

I think the bleakness of Revice comes not from the deaths of nameless extras, but from the fact that the show gets rid of supporting characters like Akemi and the Ushijima family forever and in a very casual manner.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Double standard view where anything wrong done by the cast in lighter shows (like what the Taros pull in Den-O) are ignored and swept under the rug only because the villains are far worse (grey and black can exist), while something wrong done in darker shows sticks out far more to people that they're brought up constantly even if it's done by someone kind who hit their limit at certain situation/context and got remorseful, being lumped together with other horrible people only cuz "both have done [x], [x] is bad so everyone who does [x] is bad!".

If it's not a tragedy for the show's characters, then the audience perceives it as such. As for the choice to judge by actions, it is quite logical. Repentance is not an excuse, for there are evil-suffering people who commit their atrocities with tear-stained faces. Plus, there are addicts who sincerely repent, but continue to do the same thing. If a character wants to earn forgiveness, he must do something good and then be forgiven quickly enough. Daichi is a great example of this.