[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

For morality to be perceived, it must be understandable. Since we are talking about the same Geats, this is the problem with him: everyone perceives this show in their own way. And this should not be confused with ?finds something of his own,? which also happened. But when different viewers interpret the characters of Girori or Zitt in completely different ways, or what exactly Ace was motivated by, there can be no question of any morality. Because in this case the viewer creates it for himself.

I'm not talking about Geats, but about the lighter shows. With it being the one where it's seen as having morals/message/lesson, while generally being perceived as more childish, it'd likely fall on deaf ears on older, more adult viewers who think they're above guidance, for example: showing solving problems by not fighting fire with fire, but they're consumed by their cynicism to think it's just contrived scenario to make good guys look good, and actual children may not realize if those kind of show may sugarcoat things because lighter shows may do that to preserve always happy scenarios, for example: those that claim "there are no such things as bad parents", maybe partly creating a society that believes parents are always "right" by default, and victim blame those who receive abuse under their parents. While maybe darker shows can give more clearer impact of something terrible as message.

And perceiving show in their own way isn't exclusively darker show problem, because there's something like this for superhero show, perceiving heroes are more violent than villains. Or claiming superheroes stopping villains who raged against the system as keeping the status quo and allowing the system to carry on screwing people over. Do you really think that in these shows that are perceived as light, everyone buys into "rooting for the hero to beat the villain" it expects them to do?

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

But you yourself criticized Rinne for her laughter in a horror attraction. Does this mean you embrace this approach or are you demanding it be extended to the entire show?

I'm doing the opposite to point out stuff in lighter shows that may be something mean, but can be swept under the rug due to this view. Also, I was only questioning and guessing of the reason why she laughs, and it was in 1 episode before (ep. 9). And I didn't mention it but the question seems to be answered in ep. 10, the next one, when she tries to take Kajiki there again, it seems to be that she laughs due to enjoying the horror attraction.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

And we return to my old statement that everyone has their own triggers, and therefore everyone has their own concept of a ?dark show?. The same Rinne who laughs at the horror attraction is a good illustration of this. This also includes communication between friends. Someone, on the contrary, will be offended by excessive delicacy, because it will be seen as mistrust.

Any shows will create conflicts to solve ofc. It can involve something terrible. I can be offended at what certain scumbag does in a show I watch (e.g.Kariya objectifying Rinne) but it doesn't mean that the show is dark just for having scumbags. And.... if someone never built up resentment on something terrible (e.g. racism, sexism, war, class injustice), but they don't personally experience, thus it doesn't warrant any anger or violence from them, it means that's not a real problem at least for them? That's just lack of empathy.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

But SoL/Fenix ​​immediately declared their intentions and, in fact, lived up to them. It just so happened that there were traitors in their ranks, and these traitors also turned out to be leaders. If Phoenix is ​​still to blame for experiments with Giff's DNA, then SoL is a purely protective organization. While DGP deceived riders, hiding its essence as an entertainment show. The logic here is banal: if there is nothing wrong with it, why lie? In addition, the greatest amount of competition, deception and backstabbing fell precisely during the period when the riders believed that they were saving the world, and this is already a red flag in the direction of the characters, and not the organization. Even from the point of view of selfishness: how will you benefit if the world ends up being taken over by the Jamatos?

The SoL in Saber's current time is led by Isaac which'd mean its members will play right into his hands before he's exposed. Fenix was founded by Akaishi (who also founded Deadman), Fenix is only Akaishi's means to achieve his goals. The leader being evil doesn't mean that they're traitor, particularly if they're the founder, they manipulate their underlings to do their bidding even if they joined and believed they were saving the world. And SoL/Fenix is just some examples I mentioned, KR "organization you serve is secretly evil" trope (as a part of Riders gaining power from something evil but use them for good). It applies too for BOARD, ZECT, AIMS, etc. And no, the blame is only about the Riders unwittingly advancing DGP robbing people's lives, ignoring that they don't know it. For the competition and deception the people will blame the DGP for using the Riders' desperation and dangling their wishes to pit them against each other.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

That is why it is necessary for the heroes not to hide their emotions behind a forced smile.

There are lighter shows of which the heroes consistently tell sad people (e.g. orphaned ones) to put their sorrows away and smile/be happy. Which'd be how the show refuses to address their problem and just repress darker emotions.