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Kamen Rider Gotchard Episode 11- "Catch A Spy- Rider Disqualified?!" Discussion
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12-21-2023, 12:39 AM
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Bruh, the divine entities that accidentally cause disaster by their presence isn't doing anything bad or wrong, their power is just something beyond their control, it's an unfortunate outcome not deliberately committing severe bad deeds, like a comment said above. It's a case of a bad power, not the person. There are stories that involve bad powers in a good person, like if someone who is noble has a power that can run wild if unchecked (or even get ostracized and being targeted for murders due to having that). For KR, not exactly paragon of goodness, but in Blade there's Hajime who is Joker Undead and his very existence can threaten the world, it's nothing of his fault that his power is like that where he tries to holding on his humanity by using Human Undead.
I already wrote (it seems, even in this thread) a quote: ?In a personal sense, it is very important whether they harm you from good intentions or from evil ones. But in practical terms, this does not matter.? The same applies to accidental harm. As for Hajime, it`s not just his nature. In the scene on the yacht, he says with his own lips that he wants to destroy the world. So not only is he a damn cutie, but he's still the same changed villain. Plus, in Blade's case we're dealing with Kenzaki, who, due to the loss of his parents, has a Jesus complex and a desire to sacrifice himself to save others. Even though this makes him better than most people in some aspects, I think it is still a bad role model. In fact, 90% of the other main riders in his place would have chosen the Tachibana`s option with Hajime captured in the card. Most likely, with the right to "take a walk" quite often.
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I think what distinguishes between a villain/anti-villain and anti-hero is that, the latter primarily only targets bad guys, they still fight against evil, though they can go a bit too dark in the methods to do so, so obviously it'd be able to involve killing too. Villains/anti-villains primarily target innocents in an attempt to reach their goal, even well-intentioned ones, treating them as just collaterl damage for greater good, they're terrorizing common folks. Context still weigh even actions like killing to either direction. I guess for example, in revenge-filled characters, anti-heroes would be those who target a primarily bad group though they'd kill anyone associated with it rather than trying to reason them for leaving said group (e.g. if they serve bad but for paycheck). Anti-villains/villains would target a normal group that isn't actually wrong other than their personal vendetta (e.g. based on species, country, stereotypes, for having power), and keep going to kill the people there even if they've known/learned that the group isn't inherently bad, thus they regularly attack innocents.
And I, as I also already wrote, believe that the prefix "anti" is a sign of increased attention to the character.
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