[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

It should be noted that in Gotchard the power of friendship is abused with superiority (so much of the latter that it?s time for Fourza to give up the title of the friendliest rider).

I don't know what are those people like you refer as as "power of friendship", either as an insult or praise, to only seemingly include Gotchard, Fourze, or shonen-like stuff, but not any of the other forms of it (e.g. I think Kuuga's cast work).

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I think Rinne only believed she hated Fuga when she thought he was alive, but hearing the possibility he might be dead made her realize she still loves him and wants him to be alive. For the Dark Sisters here, we see a rare sign of humanity in them, with Atropos humorously pouting like an actual kid about secretly wanting friendship and Lachesis showing concern for Clotho's welfare, which implies that they're not as above mortal problems as they claim to be.

While I agree that this can be a potential for redemption, I also wish that, humanity isn't always depicted as something of a positive light or such. It is a mistake to dehumanize awful person as incomprehensible monsters, putting them in different category from other humans. Like for example, the biggest mass murderers in history are also humans with hopes, dreams, complex relationships, feel love or are loved. Human traits can also include things like sitting on a chair, wearing clothes, eating, taking a walk, and breathing. And none of that stopped them from committing the worst atrocities of the history and feeling justified about it the whole time. Loving some people and killing others also happens simultaneously, as history has shown.

It's also a common mistake to assume evil as meaning incapable of emotions as part of the inhuman narrative (I think you seem to depict Daichi in late Geats as gaining emotions, which implies Daichi lacks human emotions before absorbing the memories, when he already has it, e.g. to be happy and revel on success or get frustrated on failures. I think it's a mistake where, unapologetically evil doesn't equal devoid of emotions), and also how by this some people downplay someone's villainy due to them having emotions, when emotions also include dark and destructive ones (e.g. people claiming a character who murders isn't evil because he's doing so out of shame of his weakness - the emotion they refer to).

Lack of humanity isn’t the issue for bad guys, it’s the fact they are human and can still promote and spread horrifying hatred and intolerance, and then turn around to hang out with their friends the next day. Human nature can be scary, I think this should be used to recognize that everyone has an inherent capacity for evil, rather than using them being shown as anything more than monsters and recognizing their humanity to frame them as ?not so bad?. A common mistake too for people to be unable to differentiate redemption and humanizing. The worst monster a man can ever face: another man.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Honestly, it's kind of cute that Lachesis truly cares about her big sis, like how Sawa and Yuzuru care about each other enough to show a trait of "weakness", which is actually a strength for humans who accept it. Shows that the Dark Sisters are still a family. Might be some potential for redemption, with an arc similar to Alain's as I speculated before.

This is the reason why I'm against tsundere claims such as Orteca murdering Yosuke in front of Tamaki. Maybe a hot take, but as much as people seem to try to downplay/paint awful behavior/actions from perhaps "cooler" characters like assholes abusing others or villains "shaping" heroes as just a tsundere move and are just the way they show affection (while perhaps mocking the more compassionate characters if they dwell on other people's predicament particularly crying about it), I think showing visible concern over others' predicament is one true display of care, because even sadistic people like Lachesis also acts like that to those she cares about, which also shows she only cares about the sisters, but no kind of "tsundere" stuff for who she victimizes.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

I admit I smiled a few times as well. This show seems to have the same effect on me that Ghost and Saber did. Clotho's sense of pride and rivalry with the Primary Rider is like Legeiel's but her fighting style is like Zooous' and vice versa for Lachesis, while Atropos is a kid-shaped Storious. Zi-O and Geats relied so much on their complicated plot logic, but the benefit of Gotchard's formulaic narrative is that foreshadowing plot developments is a lot easier and that encourages us to invest in them early so that the payoff actually means something.

By this to me it reads as if it applies to any lighthearted shows, rather than just those 2 (albeit if not, outside of Revice, wonder why not all lighthearted shows have this effect too). I also feel that Ghost is liked by members like Fish (and handful others too) due to it being a lighthearted show, as other similar kind of shows also got similar reception from them. These kind of audience also tend to encourage power of friendship and sappy speeches which you also said in shows despite it being mocked as cliches. I don't want to seem like those objecting to it, but they also seem to write off shows not revolving on it, like darker ones, as depraved, thinking that important morals can only be done by those 2 terms, nothing else.

Other than that, for formulaic narrative... does it also apply to any other tokus running on it? As many of the most beloved tokus seem to run on it, and lighthearted shows also seem to be what's more often using it, due to the lower stakes limited to primarily monster/victim of the week. For foreshadowing plot developments being easier, would it sound predictable? Not meant to insult, just that shows can do the opposite for doing unpredictable and surprising approaches (though doesn't mean it's devoid of foreshadowings). I disagree against those who judge shows only by how unpredictable or not though (e.g. those complaining why bad guys don't win as it'd be more unpredictable than good guys winning all the time).