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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

It's also a common mistake to assume evil as meaning incapable of emotions as part of the inhuman narrative (I think you seem to depict Daichi in late Geats as gaining emotions, which implies Daichi lacks human emotions before absorbing the memories, when he already has it, e.g. to be happy and revel on success or get frustrated on failures. I think it's a mistake where, unapologetically evil doesn't equal devoid of emotions), and also how by this some people downplay someone's villainy due to them having emotions, when emotions also include dark and destructive ones (e.g. people claiming a character who murders isn't evil because he's doing so out of shame of his weakness - the emotion they refer to).

I think Daichi is simply a psychopath, who feels the limited range of emotions typical of such a person, including sadism, anger and despair. There's also the headcanon that the sudden empathy is a trait of JyamaDaichi specifically, as Jyamatos are shown to have the ability to learn human emotions and thus he may have already obtained that capacity upon his Jyamafication. Alternatively, you could be right that his curiosity about "boring mundane happiness" merely gives him desire for empathy, rather than actually possessing it. Regarding the Dark Sisters though, I think there's a contradiction between their words and their actions, as Rinne called out, looking down on friendship while secretly desiring it. Emotions are the root of free will, the catalyst for both good and evil. Which is why it's important for humans to try and understand their own emotions and express them in a healthy way.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

This is the reason why I'm against tsundere claims such as Orteca murdering Yosuke in front of Tamaki. Maybe a hot take, but as much as people seem to try to downplay/paint awful behavior/actions from perhaps "cooler" characters like assholes abusing others or villains "shaping" heroes as just a tsundere move and are just the way they show affection (while perhaps mocking the more compassionate characters if they dwell on other people's predicament particularly crying about it), I think showing visible concern over others' predicament is one true display of care, because even sadistic people like Lachesis also acts like that to those she cares about, which also shows she only cares about the sisters, but no kind of "tsundere" stuff for who she victimizes.

Makes sense to be against false association between tsundere and redeeming quality, but no reason to be against tsundere claims in general. Like, Evolt is a very open tsundere villain who often talks about his sentimentality and love/hate relationship with humanity. But the emphasis here should still be on villain, not tsundere, which is just the emotional part. Unfortunately, Olteca doesn't understand how to express his "dere" side, so he goes too far with the "tsun" since that gets him the most consistent emotional reaction. However, his ability to understand what ticks off his friends (sometimes as comedy, like insulting their uniforms) shows that he at least has more emotional awareness than Daichi, who only makes himself look suspicious by saying too much. I think your example of Lachesis is also a tsundere, based on her obsession with Spanner and calling him a dog, like how Gai did to Isamu and making Yua a canine-themed pseudo-Rider, likely in tribute to Thouzer.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

By this to me it reads as if it applies to any lighthearted shows, rather than just those 2 (albeit if not, outside of Revice, wonder why not all lighthearted shows have this effect too). I also feel that Ghost is liked by members like Fish (and handful others too) due to it being a lighthearted show, as other similar kind of shows also got similar reception from them. These kind of audience also tend to encourage power of friendship and sappy speeches which you also said in shows despite it being mocked as cliches. I don't want to seem like those objecting to it, but they also seem to write off shows not revolving on it, like darker ones, as depraved, thinking that important morals can only be done by those 2 terms, nothing else.

Yeah, I'm a big fan of the magic of friendship and sappy speeches in these shows. Ghost and Saber were just some examples, but I love Fourze for the same reason and they're all near the top of my Rider Rankings. However, I believe these tropes can still exist and be respected in darker shows, like Ryuki and Faiz. Those worlds may have more resistance and counterpoints, but they also highlight the protagonist's determination for believing so strongly in their values of friendship/co-existence and getting through to others with more wisdom, like Shinji considering the Riders' motivations so that he can change them from within, or Takumi rejecting the discrimination between humans and Orphenochs and instead focusing on people's individual actions to determine what is "human" and worth protecting. The reason why the magic of friendship and sappy speeches work is precisely due to how fragile they are and why it's all the more necessary to protect them in an unfair world.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Other than that, for formulaic narrative... does it also apply to any other tokus running on it? As many of the most beloved tokus seem to run on it, and lighthearted shows also seem to be what's more often using it, due to the lower stakes limited to primarily monster/victim of the week. For foreshadowing plot developments being easier, would it sound predictable? Not meant to insult, just that shows can do the opposite for doing unpredictable and surprising approaches (though doesn't mean it's devoid of foreshadowings). I disagree against those who judge shows only by how unpredictable or not though (e.g. those complaining why bad guys don't win as it'd be more unpredictable than good guys winning all the time).

When I watch this genre, I don't ask, "who's ultimately going to win?". Of course I already know the hero is destined to succeed, so rather, I ask, "how will the hero ultimately win and what will they lose along the way?". The losing part can even be applied to Mary Sues like Tendo and Tsukasa. Optionally, there's also, "who can I ship the hero with?", which is a big part of romance genre. The formula is just there to support and advance the narrative in a sensible way, but the variables that occur within that formula are what makes each show unique. Stepping outside the formula can be a risk and whether or not it pays off depends on the competency of the writer. I mentioned before that Kinoshita tried to make Revice subversive like Ryusoulger, but failed to make it believable.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

That is, friendship with Kaixa is a very dubious event. As well as any communication with him, unless you are a seller of wet wipes.