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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Well then... the Sisters that has this contradictory should be labeled similarly as those bullies you mentioned here too, rather than being held in higher regard for it? Otherwise those nerd bullies wanting to be less lame are explanations, not excuse for the bully behavior. By general I don't want for the harmless and weak ones like the victims to be automatically associated with being pure and innocent either, so this info should be known more. They may already house terrible darkness and resentment, likely, just that they can't carry out their acts before it happens.

Of course, self-awareness is important here. For example, Michinaga openly admits to his hypocrisy without any pretense of being right, which makes him stand out from oblivious self-righteous ones like Keiwa. However, a hypocrite who can acknowledge their hypocrisy and decide to change shows even more wisdom. While the Dark Sisters may have a little human heart deep down, it's ultimately up to them to decide whether or not they will listen to that.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

What'd be the difference from the "tsundere" ones to the ones who just targets certain people out of pure malice, which may happen due to constant confrontations between certain protagonists and antagonists? And this is also one of the reasons why bullies bully, they want to incur emotional response from their victims. There's ?he bullies you because he likes you? excuse by this to paint their behavior as alright by this - oh I remember this is the reason I'm against tsundere excuses.

Tsundere bullies will relentlessly target people they care about to get their attention, while purely malicious bullies will target whoever's more vulnerable, either out of sadism or personal gain. However, bullying is wrong no matter what, so I'd like to emphasize once more that calling someone a tsundere is only an explanation for their actions, never an absolution. A tsundere can soften, but it requires more healthy dere development.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

True that dark isn't averse on your upper list, though the lighter tones still seems to be the preference for upper part. (Fourze, Ghost, Wizard, W. Though not as light as before, probably Kiva, Decade, and even Blade won't be those seen as something really dark or such) I'd also think that, lighthearted shows gets free pass on any flaws it has, being high ranked just for how bright and warm they're where everything goes right due to the efforts including all villains being redeemed (I mean not only by you but by people like Fish, Kurona, etc.... Fish does advocate for unconditional love for those shows to only praise all the time), where I'd guess that Zeronos memory time nonsense doesn't matter for Den-O's evaluation by this before.

Not all villains would be redeemed in lighthearted shows though, like Isaac in Saber, or Kai in Den-O. Unconditional love for a TV show clashes with my value of critical thinking. Not even Faiz is above this, as I accept fair criticisms like DreamSword's about Kiba. I'll gladly praise what I enjoy and complain about anything I disagree with. I think that's fair. I get annoyed when some people use the "it's just a kids show" excuse to dismiss arguments. Nothing should be off-limits to criticism.

The 11-13 positions are some of the hardest to rank, as I mostly enjoy Ryuki, Kabuto and Den-O a lot, but sometimes I simply find fault in them for different reasons. That's just my critical and honest mind and I'll dig as deep as I want, until I'm satisfied that I understand it.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Yes that'd be my point about how darker doesn't mean just being edgy for the sake of it about Ryuki using it, but it won't be what's viewed as a display of magic of friendship by people, with it showing characters being on each other's throats rather than multiple Riders acting like Sentai. Bad guys existing to get beaten up is also what people who hate Ryuki's approach and like lighthearted (also Showa) more seem to prefer, and can be what's done on lighthearted shows as well, as it'd be easier to keep the moral high ground on the heroes that way, thus it showcases "spirit of Kamen Rider" better for those people.

However, the point is that it shouldn't be easy to keep the moral high ground, as Ishinomori wanted to show that the path of heroism is unclean. Ironically, despite Kobayashi deciding to stray from the Showa style, I think she shows even more of that idea, with Riders having their beliefs challenged and being pressured to change, or Ren wanting to change deep down, but feeling obliged to keep fighting and not having a right to doubt. As a story about humans, you can really see the flaws in humanity here, but the desire for friendship and righteousness is shown as well. Difficult, but certainly worth fighting for.

Anyway, if people want to see Ryuki as a Sentai, they can watch the Hyper Battle where the main 4 are all best buds.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

But Ryuki also has ?bad guys existing to get beaten up?, and the most literal of all. Mirror monsters fit this description perfectly.

Except the contract monsters are basically feral animals who want to eat. They could be a metaphor for the "fight or you won't survive" mentality of the Rider War that Kanzaki encourages, in contrast to the Riders who fight for personal reasons. I think this makes them realistic, whereas the Unidentified Lifeforms are sapient and yet they somehow act pretty much exactly the same.