[DreadBringer]

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Originally Posted by Sunred

This. The Showa-esque elements are quite strong so far. Heck, even Hanto's whole backstory gave me V3 vibes.

I mean I'm afraid that this'd be used to romanticize trauma in how strong Shoma (and the other similar characters) would end up from it and also encourage it further to people to be done, or have villains justified where they're 'molding the heroes stronger'. I think it's just anywhere, like people in position of power seen as good like parents, teachers, etc., or even nasty daily people, that have their awful behavior or actions, or the predicament they bring to others, justified because it's "tough love" and that "misery builds character", and that it's their victims that need to have "thicker skin". Kekera is meant to be a deconstruction of this view, that being a 'harsh mentor' or 'giving difficulty' doesn't necessarily mold one stronger, but it can break them instead.

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Originally Posted by gashatfreak

His mother's actually dead! There's no 'they can still be saved later' shtick, she's actually 100% unambiguously dead. And so are the other human victims.

I didn't expect it to be revealed this early in the show tbh. It does give the show some actual stakes so I do enjoy that.

Well... this sounds as if, shows being made darker is better, but that's just tone. It doesn't indicate quality even if many dark shows are well-received. Albeit ofc all lighthearted shows aren't devoid of darker aspects, though perhaps some can feel the stakes are lacking like the early death of Takeru in Ghost with 99 days left, which many feels still executed cheaply.

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Originally Posted by Leo Novum

Oh my god, Shouma, haven’t you ever seen a farm before? Don’t you understand the importance of property and privacy? You can’t just pull out and eat the crops of hones, hard-working farmers! But at the same time, I like how we are witnessing Shouma integrate himself into human society. I think most Rider shows would literally just skip this part of the story because it is too difficult to write about.

He's an alien who just landed on Earth he wouldn't be accustomed to people's norms. For other Kamen Riders, the protagonists are already normal human so why have them 'integrate to human society', they are already living in human society. Even for some non-human ones like Wataru, they still already live and got raised in Earth their entire life.

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Originally Posted by Leo Novum

Sad that Shouma had to leave the couple like this. But evil is restless and heroism has its costs. And that’s some nice sharp shooting, preventing Shouma from transforming. And oh look, it’s Jeebh and Shita Stomach! Here for pitching their recruitment offer, I suppose. Oh wait, it’s not a recruitment offer. They’re just here to taunt Shouma over his mother’s death. I suppose we needed over the top sneering to seal the Stomach Twins’ villain credentials.

More about this story specific cuz happy people got targeted for better spice. About the cost, being non-heroic, like being apathetic, will still not make you safe from being targeted by monsters, and even being evil won't stop you being targeted by other evil people, because evil isn't always one big happy family. Shoma's past suffering isn't a result of his heroism, it's about his species that he's viewed as monster or being targeted by the Stomach for being human. Sachika should also deal with similar cost as she wants to make everyone happy (and her sthick should be labeled as heroism too...).

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Originally Posted by henshinzero

I hope not too long. It's too sad for me.

I need Shoma to have friends like Hanto & Sachika already! It's too heartbreaking for Gavv to be treated as a monster by the people. Hanto sees him as a hero. I hope Sachika does the same too.

Sachika is out of question, obviously she'd unconditionally accept Shoma. Hell, people like her should be accepting towards heinous villains too if they need help or turn a new leaf. You wouldn't question if (most) main Rider wouldn't accept an 'outsider' like other supporting characters being a monstrous species or such eh.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Surprising to hear Hanto doing the narration this time instead of Shouma. This is a more Hanto-focused episode, so it's cool to hear some of his perspective on recent events. The casual way he opens with "Yo, sup!" and how he talks about his investigation progress is a quick and effective way to distinguish him from Shouma, who's more reserved and doesn't have a clear goal other than taking care of the MOTW.

Ofc, traditional Kamen Rider shouldn't have the hero given a clear goal other than to help others/save the world to highlight their absolute heroism/selflessness without any potential distraction or corrupting factors (seems to be how personal goals are considered greed). I mean, not something you and I would agree, just that, for the heroism/KR purists, it seem to be. This is also often used as a complaint (which I heavily disagree with) for how goody two shoes are flat/one dimensional due to their lack of goals other than the expected one for good guy role.

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Originally Posted by Sh Ranger

Suga is portrayed by the young-looking 48 year-old Asanuma Shintarou, who previously voiced my favorite character Juran in Zenkaiger. He seems like a pretty cool and smart guy, but I totally get why Shioya would be cautious of these eccentric scientist types, considering how George ended up as the final villain. I like that Shioya isn't telling Hanto a hard "no", just saying he should investigate properly before trusting Suga. It's tempting to bet everything on a hot lead after 18 years of searching, but Hanto needs to play this right.

George is suspicious from the start already due to him reveling in the chaos caused by the Deadman and KR's fight, and he also guilt-tripped Hiromi about Kagerou to have him take the belt and become his lab rat. But as iirc you claimed George to be one of the few things you like about Revice, what do you think about how since middle, when George genuinely helps the cast, the cast never felt resentful or scrutinized towards him, despite that George never acknowledged his wrongs like admitting he knew Kagerou lurking inside Daiji and give him TwoSiDriver to unleash it, endangering the family in their holiday, and indeed at the end he still lashes out to them and made Ikki forget his family, directly bringing despair to them, but still had him taking a bath at said family's spa afterwards?