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Kamen Rider Gavv Episode 6- "Transformation Is Bitter Chocolate!" Discussion
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10-07-2024, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
These evidences look like they're
conveniently
left there by the Granute of the week simply to tell Hanto that Mr. Shioya had been killed by that Granute without a shadow of doubt. This is beyond dumb. Why would a criminal leave soooooo many pieces of incriminating evidences that point to his crime? Why didn't he remove those evidences before he left the crime scene? And more importantly, why would that Granute of the week decide to kill Mr. Shioya and leave his Hito Press at the crime scene?
Haven't you considered the possibility that these pieces of evidence were deliberately left behind as a calling card to Hanto? Either to motivate him to accept the operation, or to warn him what happens to journalists who put their noses in dangerous places. Journalism is about finding the truth, which means thinking of solutions as well as problems. You can't just blame everything on a higher power, or else there would be no point in journalism.
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Originally Posted by
Zolda
It's funny how the Gochizous are instantly playing dead the moment Sachika enter the scene.
Good practice for when Shouma and Hanto need them to die for real.
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Originally Posted by
Kiwami
Previous shows: "Hey secondary character, pick up this toy and put it in a funny device, go do Secondary Rider things".
Gavv: "I need to cut you the f' open and put this alien organ inside your body. You're awake the whole time by the way".
Kusaka, Hiiro and Isamu had a similar experience, except for the being awake part. Sunred already compared Hanto to Kazami Shirou, but I didn't expect them to even have the same origin story. If the MOTW was a jaguar instead of a mushroom, I'd think it was on purpose.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Gavv's really moving fast, I'm also one of those who'd expect Michiru to be likely used as a hostage later by the Stomachs against Shoma, and if she dies, it'd be a dramatic moment later. It's the same for Soji, where I expect him to be the current VOTW, but he's killed off, and there's another secondary Rider fueled by revenge.
Can we be sure about Shioya's death though? After all, we didn't actually see Granute Otake or Nyelve kill him, so it's possible that the broken Hitopress is a fake. We saw Otake's method of using magic tricks to raise his victims' spice value while concealing himself, which doesn't match how he attacked Shioya with his Gavv exposed. I believe there's something else going on here and Nyelve is probably the mastermind. A hostage is worth more alive than dead, like how Masamune revived Saki as leverage to manipulate Hiiro, so maybe Nyelve could "revive" Shioya later by revealing that he never actually died.
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DreadBringer
It seems like Suga is becoming more suspicious, with him supporting Hanto's revenge and using it as motivation, being deemed insane by Hanto, only caring about the success of his Rider project while recording Valen, and obviously, him stealing the Gochizos at the end. Obviously, Suga wouldn't know if the Gochizos are living beings, but it'd still be stealing regardless, even though he claims he borrows them.
Reminds me of an interesting moral dilemma: If you take hair from a horse's tail, is that stealing or borrowing? On one hand, the horse can easily grow it back, but on the other hand, the horse is also a financial asset to the owner and the loss of hair reduces their value. I can see both sides, but personally, I think it's stealing if you don't at least offer compensation, like Suga giving Shouma money to buy more chocolate. I guess we'd have to hear Shouma's opinion on this. He's okay with Sachika handling them, so maybe he'd be okay with Suga using them for his technology, since it helps to protect happy humans.
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Originally Posted by
DreadBringer
Soji claims Hanto's fighting skills are not very good, and thus his secondary debut isn't dominant like most previous secondaries, though his injuries from the surgery also doesn't help. He still has a cool environment tactic to collapse the floor they're fighting on and disorient Otake.
Seems like Hanto has good journalist's instinct to compensate for his lack of fighting skill, like how he knew where to look for Shioya. If he can hone that to predict the enemy's moves, strengths and weaknesses, then he could become a competent tactical fighter like Geats and Majade. Of course, we can't be too harsh on Valen's first performance, due to him recovering from his operation, but even the fact that he won in his condition is pretty impressive and shows the strength of his determination.
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Originally Posted by
Omnikaiser
Please don't give him a tragic backstory to explain why he looks shady and make him be that curious guy who goes to far and ends badly, like, I don't know, Ghost Saionji ?
Saionji did have a tragic backstory though, well, kind of. He was a fan of Da Vinci and believed he should've been included in the 15 Heroic Eyecons, but Ryu believed that heroism was stronger in people who had endured through hard work rather than relying on natural talent. I think Ryu's criteria made sense and embodied the "letting life burn bright" philosophy more, but if you look from Saionji's perspective, it must be painful for your idol's worth to be denied like that, especially by a close friend.
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