[Talisman]

Part of the fun of running watch parties is digging out weird stuff to fill out intermissions. Thank Godoka for Bosnian Ape Society.

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Originally Posted by DH21965

He was not awesome in his movies and was a sexual predator/serial abuser who also made the very very very bad mistake of being a douchenozzle to Mr Judo Gene Lebell, who choked his arrogant flabby flailing arse to sleep, not just once, but twice and made him crap/pee his pants, and then, in douchenozzle fashion, tried to SUE HIM, but his lawyers( and MANY in the stunt/martial arts community) convinced him that the discovery portion of the lawsuit will show how a 70PLUS year old Grandfather wearing a Pink Gi choked out Mr Action Hero.
There is just SO MUCH MORE TRASH to this guy, it?s why he ran to Russia to avoid the inevitable consequences of his sexual assaulting behavior

Behind the Bastards did a good episode or two on him, and I highly recommend Napoleon Blownapart's video on Make Believe Martial Arts if you just want the short version of his various utter failures as a martial artist and human being.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Wasn`t it Bruce Lee who joked that missing a kick from Chuck Norris is like getting hit by a train?

Couldn't tell you, I despise Norris almost as much as Seagal and as such tend not to pay much mind to his accomplishments.

But at least he could kind of act and I'll never have to live with his auto-tuned voice singing the word "punani".

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

As an example, I immediately remember films with Van Damme. Also with Dacascos and Don "The Dragon" Wilson. To a lesser extent, but it also happened with Lundgren. Albeit in a humorous way, Jackie Chan began to practice this trope almost before anyone else. Snipes in the Blade trilogy also received punches in the final fights. Yes, perhaps this is more true in films about martial arts than in action films with an emphasis on shootouts, in which Schwarzenegger and Stallone starred. And I'm not sure if Die Hard fits into this trope, because Willis suffers throughout the entire film.

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Originally Posted by Mesnick

Die Hard came out in 1988 (and the Soviet one in 1967, but that's a conversation for another day). Before this there was already Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Chuck Norris, Van Damme, Cynthia Rothrock and many others. I think it's more likely that someone like Nicolas Cage would have Willis to thank for getting leading roles in action films than a martial artist.

Let me rephrase: Die Hard was when the Invincible Hero trope really started to become a thing of the past in Hollywood. Elsewhere in the world it was much less common, true, but in American cinema (and Italian knockoffs thereof), the trope was alive and well right up to about the 90s.