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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

There are also several secondaries whose conflict with the primary is about the primary dreaming big to save everyone and achieve improbable best-case scenarios, dismissing their idealism to achieve long-term ideal possibilities, perhaps like Ren (who wants to save Eri) dismissing Shinji wanting to save everyone as naive.

Secondaries lean towards the extremes of the idealism-cynicism scale, so Primaries can function as a balancing role to develop them for the better. Of course, Primaries can be wrong and need development as well, but they're at least usually facing in the right direction. The cool part about Shinji is that as soon as he hears about the offer of the wish, he immediately stops trying to stop the Rider War and tries to change the Riders instead. Even though he's an idiot, he's smart enough to know when something won't work. The important difference between an improbable best case scenario and an impossible best case scenario is that only one of those is worth fighting for.

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Originally Posted by DreadBringer

Oh, I guess rather than saving the world, the primary Rider type often proclaims to want to save everyone, which can correlate to want to save entire world too. And among those, people'd see Keiwa as the type who's focused on little ways to change the world for the better, not tempted by desires (only joining the DGP to protect others), putting others (e.g. giving Boost) above it/winning. His heel turn is just seen as natural/depraved world of Geats failing him, they think people like other main Rider-type would all snap too like Keiwa if put in his position.

If Keiwa wasn't tempted by desires, then Giroli wouldn't have even bothered inviting him to the DGP. World peace and reviving the dead aren't "little things to change the world for the better", those are very big things! Much too big for one man to do alone, which is why Keiwa feels like he cannot forsake the DGP, using the delusion of protecting people and helping rivals to make himself feel better and feed his inner cynicism that they owe him for his heroic deeds. Somebody without desire like Eiji certainly wouldn't have joined DGP or fought for them in Desire Royale. Neither would Shinji, who wants a complete stop to the fighting.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

KAMEN RIDER OOO EPISODE 18 - ?DESTRUCTION, REASON, AND EEL WHIPS?

REASON:
Date is like this liminal space between Eiji and Ankh, preaching a Do What You Think Is Best ethos while cautioning it with a But You Gotta Live With It warning. It?s about desire as a resource to be harnessed, but also a temptation to be wary of, making him another great addition to this show?s nuanced take on human want.

Date is kind of like what I imagine Ankh's role would be if Ankh actually cared about other people's problems. In a show that often vilifies desire, it's a good moral that it's okay to have desires as long as you don't end up hurting others to obtain them. Date is a selfish yet noble man, so he's qualified to deliver that in a way that Eiji isn't and motivated to deliver in a way that Ankh isn't.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

AND EEL WHIPS:
I continue to enjoy his different capabilities! Where OOO relies on quick form changes in a vaguely magical way, Birth is just grinding it out with a limited toolset running off of a finite power source. OOO can keep using Core Medals forever, but Birth has to pay out for every upgrade or weapon he generates. It allows for a more methodical pace alongside the rapid-fire OOO stuff, and there?s some really harmony as the show cuts between them.

On the other hand, Birth never has to worry about losing access to any of his powers, as Cells all give the same output. If OOO loses his only Batta for example, then no more Tatoba until he finds a new one. But Birth knows he's going to burn through Cells no matter what, so he only has to think about turning the fight in to a profit, which means he can afford to be more reckless than OOO.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Die

Oh, and OOO used the Eel Medal for part of this fight! That was neat!

Oh right, I did promise Fish that I would point out my favorite mismatch form when it appeared. Of course, I'm talking about TakaUnagiCheetah! I think the passive spatial awareness of Taka, the large AOE of Unagi and the super speed of Cheetah seem like a good mix for manipulating the distance between OOO and the enemy to OOO's advantage.