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Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #1: "Beginnings" Discussion
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09-06-2025, 09:32 PM
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Zolda
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Yep. My hypothesis in my 3rd post
here
2 months ago was proven to be correct. Baku/KR Zeztz does have the power of lucid dreaming where he can control virtually all aspects of his dreams.
In the scene @ 05:29, Baku also wishes that he's able to control reality as well. My hypotheses in my 1st post
here
, 3rd post
here
, 4th post
here
, and 5th post
here
could be proven to be correct in later episodes where it'd be revealed that he
does
indeed have the power to alter reality as well, similar to the reality-altering/bending/manipulation power that was possessed by Sougo Tokiwa/KR Zi-O and Haruhi Suzumiya.
His inability to do so could be caused by some kind of mental block that was planted into his mind by the mastermind villain of the story. Based on Minami (Baku's younger sister) @ 05:43, she could be one of the mastermind villain's agent (or perhaps even
the
agent) that was tasked with keeping Baku's lucid dreaming ability aka latent reality-altering/bending/manipulation power at bay. It means that Baku's entire life could've been a completely fake life that's been manipulated by the mastermind villain, and almost all the people around him could be agents/actors planted by the mastermind villain in order to suppress Baku's power as much as possible, while at the same time allowing the Nightmares to roam free. This plot about a secret agent that was planted with some kind of a mental block by the mastermind villain to keep him at bay is quite similar to the plot of Total Recall (1990), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. Starting from the middle part of the film, the reality of Arnold's character (Douglas Quaid) started to blur with his dream about being a secret agent and made the plot becoming more ambiguous.
Mmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyybbbbbbbbbbeeeeeeeeee...
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Elaborated, edited post:
In the opening scene @ 00:01, Nemu (the heroine) has been held hostage by a criminal organization for 1 week. I was like, "Where's the police? Why haven't they done anything in a week?" When an unknown voice is speaking English @ 00:26 and telling Baku that his mission is to save the target, I've realized that this entire scene is just Baku's crazy dream, so no wonder the police have done nothing, haha.
In the scene @ 04:56, Minami (Baku's younger sister) says that Baku is lucid dreaming again. Yep. My hypothesis in my 3rd post
here
2 months ago was proven to be correct. Baku/KR Zeztz does have the power of lucid dreaming where he can control virtually all aspects of his dreams. Baku wishes @ 05:29 that he's able to control reality as well. My hypotheses in my 1st post
here
, 3rd post
here
, 4th post
here
, and 5th post
here
could be proven to be correct in later episodes where it'd be revealed that he
does
indeed have the power to alter reality as well, similar to the reality-altering/bending/manipulation power that was possessed by Sougo Tokiwa/KR Zi-O and Haruhi Suzumiya.
His inability to do so could be caused by some kind of mental block that was planted into his mind by the mastermind villain of the story. Based on what Minami says @ 05:43, she could be one of the mastermind villain's agent (or perhaps even
the
agent) that has been tasked with keeping Baku's lucid dreaming ability aka latent reality-altering/bending/manipulation power at bay. The fact that TTFC is showing side contents titled Series of Sister's Substory Agent Minami means that that hypothesis could be correct. Perhaps she would transform into Nightmare's Rider later?
Gulp! It means that Baku's entire life could be a completely fake life that's been manipulated by the mastermind villain, and almost all the people around him could be agents/actors planted by the mastermind villain in order to suppress Baku's power as much as possible, while at the same time allowing the Nightmares to roam free. Or maybe not. Maybe she's just a collateral damage and an unknowing puppet, haha.
This plot about a secret agent that was planted with some kind of a mental block by the mastermind villain to keep him at bay is quite similar to the plot of Total Recall (1990), starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. Beginning in the middle part of the film, the reality of Arnold's character (Douglas Quaid) started to blur with his dream about being a secret agent (that was tasked by his superior in a mission on Mars) and made the plot becoming more ambiguous.
In the scene @ 06:19, Baku is playing with a little girl before his job interview. A moment later, an unknown man very very
very
easily persuades that little girl to buy a new box of apple juice. And as expected, her mom frantically looking for her. It seems like her mom never told her to never speak to strangers and never trust strangers. Dang, this story could be likely going full dumb like KR (God forbid) Gavv.
In the scene @ 07:15, Nox (the starter villain general) appears and announces that he's gonna make nightmares come true, but the world he's in has red tint and no one's there, which means that he's not in the real world, but the dream world. Somehow, after his announcement, an SUV comes into the scene, moves by itself, and almost hit Tetsuya Fujimi (police detective #1), but the actual target is Baku. When Tetsuya opens the SUV's door, he's perplexed when he finds that no one is driving the car.
In the scene @ 07:56, Minami is rushing to the hospital room where Baku is treated. Baku says that if he can do it in his dreams, then he can do it in reality too, but Minami scolds him and tells him to never do it in real-life. She says that Baku has a Guinness-level bad luck, and a news article is shown about a junior high school student that was struck by a lightning bolt on his way home from school, which implies that it was Baku. She says that every time he tries to help someone, a nightmare-like scene happens in real-life, i.e the lightning bolt and the driverless SUV. This scene could mean that my hypothesis above about Baku's entire life being a completely fake life that's been manipulated by the mastermind villain (or at least by a God-like yet malevolent entity) could be correct.
In the scene @ 09:00, a creepy-looking door opens. It's called the Heart's Door/the Mind's Door, and that's where the Nightmares enter their victims' dreams from.
In the scene @ 09:07, a new rookie cop named Nasuka Nagumo (police detective #2) arrives at the crime scene and introduces herself as a new member of the Tokyo MPD Mysterious Incidents Division that's headed by Tetsuya. I hope there are several more members of this Mysterious Incidents Division like the Special Investigation Unit in KR Drive, at least 2 more members. It'd make no sense at all if such department only has 2 members, 1 of which has only joined in this episode. Unlike the uber-dumb police in KR (God forbid) Gavv, it's nice to see 2(!) police detectives (Tetsuya and Nasuka ) among the main characters. They look like the slightly more serious, more competent version of Mikio Jinno and Shun Makura/Makki. Nasuka is giving me the Rinko Daimon v2.0 vibe from KR Wizard. Heck, even their attires and hairstyles are very similar, haha.
At least the Tokyo police department is doing their job properly in this story. Also, at least one of them, or one of their close friends or immediate family members would likely be a victim of the Nightmares in earlier episodes.
Tetsuya mentions @ 09:43 that there are many unsolved mysterious cases that he's dubbed "black cases", involving suspicious deaths, disappearances, etc. Nasuka asks Tetsuya whether national security is at risk, since these "black cases" are handled by the Public Security Bureau, and Tetsuya confirms it. This could mean that the victims of Nightmares could've included important figures such as ministers, top politicians, police/military top brass, intelligence officers, etc. Tetsuya also tells Nasuka that he's find clues to the origins of the "black cases", which he pinpoints to the Nightmares, the invaders from humans' nightmares. This means that he's very likely hasn't been working alone and has been supported by other members of the police force of 3rd party. I'm interested to see who's supplied these intel to Tetsuya. Perhaps it's a double agent within Nightmare?
Or perhaps it's Nox himself?
In the scene @ 10:20, Baku is lying on bed, and he's visited by a kaijin named Gun Nightmare, which strangely managed to enter his room without anyone noticing. When he gets up from his bed due to the shock, he finds that there's no one at all in the hospital, and even in the streets. The surreal chase scene that moves between several unconnected places gives away that this is a dream sequence. Strangely, in the scene @ 11:12 an electronic billboard showing Nemu's face still exists, and @ 12:03 she still exists, which means that she's likely the same species as the Nightmares, or at least an entity similar to Nox, who I hypothesized
here
could be a rogue agent or a former agent who is trapped in the dream realms, although her motivation to enter/stay in the dream realms could be different from Nox. Perhaps she's from a 3rd faction, not from CODE nor Nightmare?
Don't know!
Now I can quite see the pattern here. In Baku's or other people's own dreams, there are still other people there as usual, whereas in a dream that has been intruded by a Nightmare (or Nox), there's almost no one there. Perhaps, pure dreams = still contain many people, while nightmares = only contain the victim, very few people, and the Nightmares (and or Nox), quite literally, haha.
Also, the reason why only people who can lucid dream (like Baku) can be CODE's agents is that the power of lucid dreaming can negate the power of the Nightmares (and vice versa) as shown @ 13:07 when the Gun Nightmare manages to make Baku believe that his right hand is turning into liquid.
In the scene @ 15:36, when Baku has found his resolve after being mocked by Gun Nightmare, he's rescued to a mysterious place by hands that belong to an unknown figure, which could be Nemu. There, he encounters another unknown figure, this time it's male, which Baku thinks is Commander Zero, a recurring character from his crazy dreams. My 5th hypothesis in my post
here
could be proven to be correct in this scene. I hypothesized that there could be a rogue agent who has been conspiring with the enemies like Alpha/agent A in the Men in Black cartoon (1997). Like Commander Zero/agent 0, which could be the founder of CODE, Alpha/agent A was the first agent and the founder of the Men in Black organization, so there's quite a high chance that Commander Zero could be conspiring with the Nightmares. Commander Zero likely has ulterior motive, similar to Akaishi from Fenix in KR Revice or Master Logos from the Sword of Logos in KR Saber, although he's more similar to Akaishi who founded both Fenix and Deadmans and pitted them against each other for his own gain. The robot-bike (Zero) could be where Commander Zero's actual mind resides in, or perhaps he's able to switch between the robot-bike form and the human form. But, are Commander Zero (a recurring character from Baku's crazy dreams), the mysterious man, and Zero the robot-bike even the same person?
Baku is hospitalized only because he tried to prevent the little girl @ 06:19 from being kidnapped, so why does she only appear in his nightmare for about 2 seconds @ 14:04?
Instead, why is it Nemu that appear the most?
It's unknown what happened to the little girl after Baku was hit by the Nox-controlled SUV @ 07:33, which implied that the kidnapper man succeed in kidnapping the little girl, which means that Baku
did
fail to rescue her. Another weird thing is, the dream about Nemu being kidnapped for 10 billion JPY ransom was already resolved very early in this episode @ 04:34, so why the heck is she still kidnapped
and
is still wearing the same exact clothes
and
is still being held hostage for 10 billion JPY ransom (or 10,003,133,500 JPY to be exact) in the scene @ 17:18?
If Baku is having a nightmare because of his failure to prevent the little girl from being kidnapped, then the only thing that makes sense is that the main target to be saved in his crazy dream mission is the little girl (or rather, the
projection
of the little girl that is created by his mind), not Nemu. Instead, why does he say @ 17:18 that his mission is to save the target that is Nemu, not the little girl?
Nemu was already successfully saved, so she doesn't need to be saved anymore! It's the little girl that needs to be saved from the kidnapper! If I'm in Baku's position, then I'd be greatly burdened by my failure, and that little girl will always be the permanent character in my nightmares
forever
, haha.
As usual, this is basically Yuuya Takahashi's typical weird, bizarre, faulty reasoning. *facepalm
Zeztz 01 @ 17:18
The fight scene looks nice, but man, I'm not really a fan of the Rider design. It just looks very very
very
mediocre and half-baked (or perhaps quarter-baked). The helmet just looks flat, almost featureless. The complete lack of armor below the waist, even just simple knee pads or shin armors, coupled with the fact that the Driver is on the chest, not waist, makes KR Zeztz looks like he's going to a bottomless party, haha.
It's just looks soooooooooooooooooooooooooo empty below the waist. I like the Driver, though. The best design is definitely the weapon (Breakam Zeztzer), which will debut in episode 2 next week. I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally like multi-mode/multi-form/multi-functional weapons such as the Breakam Zeztzer, the X Gotchalibur (used by KR Gotchard), the Den Gasher (used by KR Den-O) and the Zero Gasher (used by KR Zeronos), etc. I'm definitely buying the DX Breakam Zeztzer.
Oh, and after a Nightmare is defeated, its debris turned into a purple butterfly, which was shown in the teaser videos to be spread by Nox. Perhaps that purple butterfly works similar to the Roidmudes' Core Driviars in KR Drive, so if it's not completely destroyed, then there's quite a high a chance for the same Nightmare to be moved into a new blank body and be revived in future episodes.
In the scene @ 22:08, Nox appears in the hospital where Baku's treated, albeit at the dream side. I think this scene (and the earlier one @ 07:15) shows Nox's typical modus operandi. Perhaps it goes like this:
- Nox is always in the dream world.
- He's somehow still able to control several objects in the real world by causing them to move and injure his intended victims such as Baku.
- The victims are injured and fall into nightmares. Alternately, the victims may not be injured, but the events caused by Nox could create a trauma that would make the victims easier to fall into nightmares.
- When the victims are having nightmares, Nightmares intrude the victims' minds via the Heart's Door/the Mind's Door.
- Ordinary victims have no lucid dreaming ability, so they're very likely going to be succumbed to the Noghtmares' attacks and be defeated by the Nightmares.
- When a Nightmare manages to destroy a victim's dream, that Nightmare gains strength and might likely evolve into stronger form(s). Or perhaps, they'd even give birth to one or several Nightmare seeds/proto-Nightmares (the purple butterflies) that are managed by Nox, which means that Nightmares might replicate like viruses.
- Victims that have lucid dreaming ability like Baku have the power to control at least some aspects of their dreams. It'd allow them to fight back against the Nightmare's attack and enable them to transform into a CODE Rider.
- The fact that Nox resides in the dream world yet is able to control (and likely also see and communicate with) some aspects of the real world could mean that my hypothesis (about lucid dreamers having the ability to control reality as well, not just dreams) in the 2nd paragraph above could be correct. Perhaps, Nox has gained a small fraction of the reality-altering/bending/manipulation power, albeit at the cost of having the majority of his mind being tethered to the dream realms. Dang, Nox is really the most interesting and potential character in this story so far. So stoked about him!
In the scene @ 22:24, Tetsuya sees that Baku has unknowingly worn the Zeztz Driver and possessed the Physicam Impact Capsem and Zeztz Phone when he wakes up from his nightmare. Baku thought that his crazy dreams were just dreams, but at this moment he's just realized that those weren't dreams at all. Yep, my hypothesis in my 1st post
here
about the existence of a connection between dream and reality in the form of a reality-altering dream is proven to be correct in this scene. It also means that Commander Zero from his crazy dreams is indeed the mysterious man from the previous scene and Zero the robot-bike that will debut in episode 2.
Next week:
Baku and Nemu is chased by police in the dream world, which means that the Nightmare victim of the week could be a police, perhaps Tetsuya's coworker at the Tokyo MPD. Also, the preview scene shows several police cars exploding after the Nightmare gives an order to blow everything up, which means that the Nightmare could be planting a negative idea inside the victim's mind with the aim of controlling/manipulating his behavior, similar to the internal logic in Inception (2010) when the protagonist Dom Cobb planted a negative idea into his wife's mind (Mal) about the real world being just another layer of dream which ultimately drove her to suicide, or when Dom, Saito, and the other protagonists tried to plant a positive idea into Robert Fischer's mind (about chasing his own dreams without living as his dead father's shadow) with the aim of making him break down his own corporation. I can see why Nox/the Nightmares' scheme is considered a national security-level threat by Tetsuya.
So far, Nemu has only appeared in Baku's dream and on TV ads/commercials/billboards/etc., but has never shown her real-life appearance like Minami, Tetsuya, or Nasuka do. Like I hypothesized above, it could mean that Nemu is another dream-dwelling entity with no actual real-life existence, similar to the Nightmares. She's basically like virtual actors, virtual bands, virtual idols, vtubers, etc.
Tetsuya is having a conflict with Nasuka because she thinks that the police's job is to solve real-life crimes, not thought crimes and imaginary villains, haha.
Meanwhile, Tetsuya is seemingly a staunch believer that the sub-conscious mind ruckus caused by the Nightmares
do
ultimately have consequences in real-life.
The debut of Zero the robot-bike. Is he just an AI-powered robot-bike, or is he really a robot-bike that contains the consciousness of Commander Zero like I hypothesized above?
Perhaps the robot-bike form is the form he assumes in the real world, while in the dream world he assumes a human form?
The debut of KR Zeztz's multi-mode/multi-form/multi-functional weapon, the Breakam Zeztzer. Nice!
I won't be surprised at all if KR Zeztz turns out to be as convoluted as KR (God forbid) Geats. The greatest shock is if KR Zeztz turns out to be a simple, straightforward detective story like KR W. Yuuya Takahashi is writing a simple, straightforward story? Now
that
's news!
Based on what's shown in this episode, I have a feeling that this series is gonna be very very
very
convoluted and absurd. Is it gonna be more convoluted than KR (God forbid) Geats? I don't know, only time will tell. At the very least, it'd likely be as convoluted as KR (God forbid) Geats, because Yuuya Takahashi won't allow himself to turn down the level of convolutedness in his story, haha.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Yuuya Takahashi's 4th stage of delusion, I mean, Kamen Rider series.
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