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Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #9- "Poison" Discussion
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11-10-2025, 10:14 AM
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Yay, Super Hero Time is ba- oh wait, there's no Gozyuger next week. For now, we'll just have to count on Zeztz to continue the mission!
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Frontier
I love how the Healing Forms' weapon is a big axe that would make Kintaros proud.
The axe is so big, it will make you CRY!
I guess now would be an appropriate time to mention my opinion of Espirim's design. Personally, I think it's redundant to give a green form to a green Rider, like, it could at least have used a different accent color to make it look less monotonous.
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Frontier
Oh, I'd say Kensei Odakka is involved in Black Cases...he's frikkin' Nox!
And I don't even need to check the kanji to know that the "daka" part of Odaka means hawk, which completes our lucky dream trio with Fujimi and Nasuka.
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Frontier
Nox stole a Capsem! They even blacked it out in the next episode preview! Baku literally just got it!
Fortunately, the preview shows Zeztz using Espirim Barrier. Convenient how he can still use subforms even without having access to the default version.
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Switchblade
You already won me over with sword and gun modes, adding an axe is just icing on top at this point.
And you'll be getting a cherry on top of that icing very soon!
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DreamSword
Not to mention, pretty much every episode so far has been almost entirely from Baku's' perspective(or his supporting cast), and their jobs aren't to get into the little nitty-gritty of these people's' lives; Simply to stop the situation at hand. As such, us as the viewer aren't going to get any super deep insight into how the chefs all talk to eachother outside of the relevant scenes or the fully details of the conversation between the newlyweds in the Crow two-parter, for example. The value is not in knowing every single little progression point of these people's' lives, but rather knowing that things have been made better, even just a little bit, thanks to the work of Zeztz and his crew.
True that the main and side characters are always going to get more focus and development than guest characters, but I can also kind of understand Fish's problem here. It's much easier to invest emotionally in the stakes when they're happening to characters we care about, so I prefer it when those guest characters actually present like characters, rather than merely expendable plot devices. Baku cares about these people, so we should feel inclined to care as well, right? The lack of resolution with the chefs does make their conflict seem open-ended in an unsatisfying way.
I think the best thing the show can do is bring back some of these characters later, like Fourze and Gotchard. Like, show us how their lives have improved in a few months after Zeztz secretly helped them out. Maybe Miyuki finally goes abroad, the apprentice chefs push Shirogane Royale to even greater prestige, etc. I don't mind not seeing that stuff now, since realistically things don't change that quickly anyway, but it would be nice to get more closure later.
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DreamSword
I dunno man, "All he did was stop the situation from getting worse" seems like a really jaded take to me. Like, yeah. He prevented a bunch of people from dying to food poisoning as well as keeping a business(and those who work for it) from going under. I'm not seeing how there isn't a value of heroism to that.
Agreed. Even though we can't see Zeztz saving lives and happiness, that doesn't mean it isn't happening. He's just as heroic as any average Primary Rider. Reminds me of the Oni's battles against the Makamou, which mostly happens away from public eye.
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