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Kamen Rider Zeztz Case #13- "Extinguish"- Discussion
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Frontier
Ah, so they extrapolated "I'm going to give up my dream for my parents' sake" into "Let's blow up the entire world in a meteor shower!"
I appreciate how Seven clarifies that Meteor Nightmare is twisting Seiya's subconscious desire. Seems like some people took the whole "this terrible thing is totally what the dreamer wants" too literally.
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Mesnick
Luckily, no one can dream like children, and a new encounter with Seiya helps him get back on track. It's funny how this makes the boy the most important Dreamer on the show at this point. And his story, realistic, shown in passing and without dramatization, is touching.
Agreed. It's sweet how Baku and Seiya were able to inspire each other. While the national secret arc did a good job of honestly framing the dreamer Atsumi as a plot device rather than pretending he's worth our emotional investment, I think the meteor strike arc did a good job of setting up Seiya for that investment and actually following through.
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StardustWhip
- As expected, there seems to be some tension between Baku and Fujimi over Odaka/Nox. And not resolved by the end of the episode either; I have to wonder if Fujimi will refuse to accept Odaka's ties to the case until he sees his snazzy new (anti-)villain form for himself. Or otherwise sees irrefutable evidence of Odaka's heel turn.
Fujimi needs to work on his critical thinking skills if we wants to become a great detective. Sure, intuition is also important for the job and it's okay for him to want to believe in Odaka, but when the field agent is reporting his involvement in some way and there's no evidence to refute it, then that's time to accept there's probably more to his buddy than he once thought. We can't just believe what's convenient.
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ThirstMcGurst
And I also believe Zero chose him because he wouldn't ask questions and just go along with the adventures. Nox knew who Zero was and what the organization is about, and he was a trained policeman/ detective. Nox/ Odaka would of course question everything and figure stuff out. It's probably why Zero is hiding from Nasuka and Fujima, as well as threaten Minami if she says anything.
Then again, I'm probably attaching way too much emotional feelings to this. lol
No, I think you're pretty much spot on here. On his pride as the invincible agent, Baku is someone who strives to truly live in the moment and expose the truth through his own deductions, a quality that the cunning Zero has been encouraging, to likewise discourage difficult questions. Odaka had a reason to become an agent other than wanting that thrill, so he couldn't be manipulated so easily.
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Leo Novum
Odaka/NOX/Ex Code Number 4 is still my favourite character in the show.
Baku is careless and swept up in the fantasy. The cops are just standard cardboard cutouts. Nem is barely a character.
At least MInami has some potential to develop into a good character.
Well, my favorite is Baku. Him getting swept up in the agent fantasy is exactly what makes him interesting to me.
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