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Kamen Rider Die rewatches Kamen Rider Fourze
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Kamen Rider Die
KAMEN RIDER FOURZE EPISODE 12 - “DUTY AND NOBLE INTENTIONS”
We get to see a more serious side of Yuuki in this episode, to better convey how perilous things are for Kengo, but also to remind us that Kengo is kind of a terrible friend. He’s principled, but that makes him demanding and prickly. He’s concerned about the greater good, but in a way that disregards individuals and their feelings. He’s willing to die for his mission, but he isn’t prepared to share the burden. He’s kind of relentlessly rude, and prone to tantrums, and just a full-time project for Yuuki. It’s not that Kengo isn’t worth the hassle, but it’s also that it’s
always a hassle
with Kengo.
Not like Kengo was a friend to the KRC members anyway before, it's one-sided in others' favor for the friendship, so don't expect Kengo to fulfill the expectations of a friendship with him being terrible friend before. He's a jerk though despite fulfilling protective mission, as you explained here, though a handful of people I've known seem to think that these kind of problematic behaviors don't matter as long as you aren't the one seen as the cause behind disasters like mass death (e.g. being blamed for unwittingly causing a villain to rise). And maybe some'd see Kengo as only being 'terrible' here due to freaking out of being trapped in moon which is normal for people to lash out (but for Kengo, his usual behavior is also like this). Only at the end Kengo acknowledges them as his friends, with his handshake to Gentaro and also reporting to his dad about making friends. Kengo definitely goes through the softening/rehabilitating kind.
But Yuuki gets him, even if she normally indulges him. We’ve gotten 11 episodes of Yuuki gently steering Kengo to variable success, while placating his wounded ego and sweetly suggesting some new outlooks to him, but this time she needs to have a
talk
with Kengo. Kengo’s trapped on the moon – which is, you know, still a pretty big deal! – but he’s lashing out at the people closest to him, whether he wants to admit it or not. He’s missing how they’re not only working to rescue him, they’re working to
honor
him by continuing to fight the Zodiart that’s menacing the school.
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And that, honestly, is the only reliable way to connect with Kengo. It’s just like the first Kengo story with him and Gentarou about using Fourze, but now widened to include the entire KRC: You don’t reach Kengo by telling him you care about him, you reach Kengo by showing him that you care about his
mission
. The team putting the defeat of Makise over the safety of Kengo (because Kengo wasn’t in any immediate danger, despite being moon-exiled) lets Kengo know that there are people who share his dedication, and that’s worth letting them in.
I guess for this one, it's seen that Fourze tried to reach moon with his bike, but it failed, it doesn't seem to be about putting the Zodiart first before the friend, despite Yuki's claim of Gentaro prioritizing Zodiarts first. And I guess Yuki talked with Kengo before Makise was beaten, so it doesn't seem to be about prioritizing Zodiart before Kengo, it was equal prioritization at best, dividing tasks between KRC members. I do think though, Gentaro wanting to befriend everyone means he shouldn't only prioritize the main circle (like Kengo) over people who don't seem important enough in the narrative.
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I don’t… like, I don’t ever want to lose sight of how ridiculous and fun this show is, even when it’s doing a very sweet and melancholy story of a boy who’s afraid to die alone. Even when we’re getting Kengo screaming at the rhyming injustice of being trapped on the moon to die, just like his father, we still have a plot where some incel piece of crap is going to telekinetically drive a bus full of high school girls off of a bridge, and the only way to stop this cosmic monstrosity is to be electric and also briefly invisible??? (Also, I love that the way the director decided to show the girls being telekinetically manipulated was to fill them walking backwards and then run it in reverse, so they're walking forward in a herky-jerky way. Super clever!) Like, this is all still a bunch of high school kids trying their best to affect a moon rescue, and it’s simultaneously earnest and hapless, which is the perfect balance for this show of weirdos saving the day. For example: I get that Yuuki’s going through a lot, and she’s willing to try anything to rescue Kengo – up to and including begging the Chairman of the school to mount an international moon mission – but shouldn’t the
astronaut-in-training
have been the one to tell Gentarou that Fourze can’t just fly all the way to the moon? Seems like her area of expertise!
Maybe Fourze can use any items to attack Makise, but Electric is the upgraded form, so he used that. The important one is maybe the stealth one, like Verde does. At the end though, everyone gathered to the moon to visit Kengo, so Yuki would be wrong by saying this. Makise's deal is about approaching multiple girls and got rejected, so it explains him moving on from Yuki to others, after failing to previous girls before Yuki, and wants to get revenge on them by sending them to ocean.
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Free convenient access to the moon and vista of Earth is a unique selling point as well! I think Rabbit Hatch is especially fun compared to the base of the show's second SHT partner, Gobusters, which is a dull grey place that looks like it was designed by Kengo. I'd say Rabbit Hatch is one of my favorites for sure, up there with Hikari Studio and nascita (coffee must improve after the first quarter, right?).
JK knows this, which is why to him, Rabbit Hatch can be turned into a tourist attraction.
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The inevitable misfortune of Gentarou's boast to befriend
everybody
at school. Makise should learn that girls won't respect him until he respects them, but self-improvement is difficult for narcissists like him.
Makise seems to be who Gentaro refused to befriend, with him not being given similar reaction to the previous Zodiarts (who are obviously more sympathetic, though). Gentaro letting the girls giving Makise his just desserts can be used as a benchmark on how heroes shouldn't be so forgiving, like what Gentaro does here. Which I wonder what kind of people who does not deserve the heroes' kindness should still have the heroes being kind to them, or to have the hero go hateful and holding grudge into, outside of about how the audience knows the backstory so they're not a lost cause. Usually to people, it seems that more grounded evil type (where you seem to tolerate mass murder) like incels such as Makise is the one they'd see as nothing more than a monster, but this'd apply too for other uncomfortable crimes that people'd complain if the heroes doesn't have the "appropriate" reaction (like endless grudge to them), like abusive guardians, people in positions of power, bullies, etc.
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